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re: Does Gruden know how to run a college program?
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:09 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:09 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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It would make for a splash the first few months. Maybe some recruiting momentum, but then it would be an utter failure once the season unfolded.
Right. How could a guy like Gruden compete with Shark fricker and Muschamp?
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:11 pm to Landmass
He's not leaving the booth with his salary now to go recruiting and coaching in the SEC.
Let it go ppl
Let it go ppl
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:11 pm to ohiovol
I'm not sure he could.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:11 pm to Robert Goulet
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How is this so hard to understand for so many?
Some don't want to accept that another juggernaut coach might come into the SEC and make it even harder to win SEC Championships than it is right now.They simply dont want to believe it. These are probably many of the same people who said Bama couldn't get Saban. Now maybe UT won't be able to pull it off this time. But you know they have to try. It is has been a long time for UT, and I will be happy for them. Right up until the first time they beat Alabama.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:12 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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but then it would be an utter failure once the season unfolded.
This is highly unlikely, but what posters don't understand is that VOL fans are willing to take that risk. We are so tired of Lyle's monotonous bullshite, and we are lusting for an off-season like Kiffin's in 2013.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:13 pm to viceman
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Half of college coaching is recruiting. How hard can it be to recruit young players looking for shot in the NFL, after he shows them his Super Bowl ring? Gruden would be a good coach at UT. Would he be Nick Saban good? Probably not, but they would be a hell of a lot better than they are now. Gruden is a home run hire if they can pull it off.
Not to mention if he assembled a great staff there (which he would) it will only make it that much easier for him to succeed.
There have only been 3 hires in recent history that have been transcendent hires.
Saban at Bama, Meyer at OSU, and Harbaugh at Michigan. Gruden would join that category of hires
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:18 pm to Road to 16
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There have only been 3 hires in recent history that have been transcendent hires.
Saban at Bama, Meyer at OSU, and Harbaugh at Michigan. Gruden would join that category of hires
I mean, I guess it's possible. But comparing his hypothetical hire to those coaches is down right ridiculous. Gruden has more in common with Chan Gailey than he does Saban, Meyer, or Harbaugh. And I'm by no means downplaying Gruden's NFL success. College and and NFL are two different games. And the list is short for those that had success in both.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:22 pm to viceman
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These are probably many of the same people who said Bama couldn't get Saban. Now maybe UT won't be able to pull it off this time. But you know they have to try.
Absolutely right. A very good chance a guy like Gruden turns you down but you have to do everything you can and stop settling for MAC coaches. And he might not be great as a college coach, but a guy like that has connections and will surround himself with a good staff. I find it baffling people think he can't out coach most of the current names in the league.
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Right up until the first time they beat Alabama.
Tennessee only needs to improve by about 60 points. We will be there in no time!
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:23 pm to Road to 16
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Not to mention if he assembled a great staff there (which he would) it will only make it that much easier for him to succeed.
There have only been 3 hires in recent history that have been transcendent hires.
Saban at Bama, Meyer at OSU, and Harbaugh at Michigan. Gruden would join that category of hires
Agreed. Since the Big 10 has hired JH amd UM, the whole conference has risen in national perception. I still have conference pride and a desire for the SEC to retake its rightful place as the undisputed best conference.For this to happen the SEC needs better coaches. For those who do not think strength of conference matters, just think about it like this. 4 conference champions make it in to the playoffs. there are 5 major conference champions and Notre Dame. Somebody gets left out every year. If people don't believe the SEC is a strong conference, then one day that champ that gets left is going to be the SEC champion.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:25 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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College and and NFL are two different games. And the list is short for those that had success in both.
Correct.
It’s harder in the NFL.
Also, the Chan Gailey comparison.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:26 pm to ohiovol
Maybe. But aside from that, it may be even more difficult to transition from one to the other.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:26 pm to Landmass
It's possible but I think he is over hyped as a college head coach . If Tennessee could get him for 4 million a year then it would be worth the risk but I expect that he is going to want a lot more.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:27 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Maybe. But aside from that, it may be even more difficult to transition from one to the other.
I do agree with this.
There are risks. But he’s my number one target if I’m Currie.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:29 pm to Landmass
Apparently, he can't run an NFL one.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:35 pm to viceman
I do think he wants to coach again. He's still young but he's not getting younger. His window is closing and I'm sure he knows this. UT isn't always going to be around for him to walk right into. I think this is the right time for him to come back into it. If I'm UT, this is the way I have to approach it. Opportunity and his love for and ties to Tennessee. If UT don't get him this time, I think that window will close for both of them, in regards to UT. Pony up 6 million and hand him the keys to the program. Give him total control to steer that ship. IMO, it's time for UT to full court press him and his wife. This would be a slam dunk hire for UT and it would elevate TSIO to where it belongs and should be.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:38 pm to ohiovol
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Also, the Chan Gailey comparison.
A ridiculous statement met with a ridiculous statement on the surface. But the point was Gailey spent much of his career in the NFL like Gruden. But at least he had head coaching experience in college before going to Georgia Tech.
Gruden hasn't coached in a decade and hasn't coached in college since the 1980s. But comparing Gruden's hire, while it would be a splash, to Saban, Harbaugh, and Meyer is a little out there.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:45 pm to dbuchanon
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He makes 50 Million per year showing off his 12 inch hog at private parties, why would he leave that cushy gig
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He makes 20 Million per year farting the Star Spangled Banner for children at St. Judes, why would he leave that cushy gig
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He makes 1 Billion per year from dwarf tossing contests. Why would he leave that cushy gig?
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He makes 78 Million per year making penis shaped ice sculptures, why would he leave that cushy gig?
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He makes 18 Million per year playing Bridge with Colin Farrell on Anne Hathaway's florescent arse, why would he leave that cushy gig?
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He makes 3.14159265359 Million per year solving pi, why would he leave that cushy gig?
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He makes 425 Million per year analyzing Ole Miss vs Arkansas 2015, he ain't leaving that cushy gig
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He makes 0 per year for tucking his dong between his legs and pretending to have a vagina, it's more of a hobby, but it's a cushy gig, and he ain't leaving it.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:59 pm to ohiovol
Vol fans already doing work to be crowned off-season champs next year.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 6:20 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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I mean, I guess it's possible. But comparing his hypothetical hire to those coaches is down right ridiculous. Gruden has more in common with Chan Gailey than he does Saban, Meyer, or Harbaugh. And I'm by no means downplaying Gruden's NFL success. College and and NFL are two different games. And the list is short for those that had success in both.
How is it down right ridiculous? Hiring a Super Bowl winning coach at one of the power programs in college football isn't transcendent? I know you are a Bama fan just like me and I hate UT but Gruden would be a game changing hire.
Also you lost the argument when you compared Gruden to Chan Gailey. Gruden has won a title and is one of the most recognizable names in all of sports. He can walk into any living room and everyone will know who he is. You would have to be an idiot if you actually believe that Gailey can even be mentioned in the same breath as Gailey
In fact, Gruden is more like Saban than he is Gailey
Posted on 10/13/17 at 6:37 pm to Landmass
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Does Gruden know how to run a college program?
Uh no.
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