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re: Do LSU fans consider Les Miles the best coach in history of their program?
Posted on 6/19/16 at 7:39 pm to AlabamaAlum07
Posted on 6/19/16 at 7:39 pm to AlabamaAlum07
You can't win SEC titles with 3 losses anymore like you could when Saban was here.
He also gave us our most embarrassing loss...at home to UAB
He also gave us our most embarrassing loss...at home to UAB
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 7:47 pm to Choctaw
Only the most embarrassing because Troy started to look ahead during halftime a few years back. So did the fans judging by the mass exodus during intermission.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 8:46 pm to TT9
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He has the only 2 loss championship in the modern are, but we were lucky
Still win the SECCG
Did Bama even play in it for 2011-12 Season?
Posted on 6/19/16 at 8:49 pm to lsusteve1
2012 yes. 
Posted on 6/19/16 at 8:49 pm to lsusteve1
I don't remember Les claiming playing in the sec-cg was a requirement when he was lobbying for the sugar bowl in 06.
Luck is having a 5-6 Pitt know off a #2 WVU allowing LSU to back into a bcs-ncg.
Luck is having a 5-6 Pitt know off a #2 WVU allowing LSU to back into a bcs-ncg.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 8:55 pm to FourThreeForty
Why are Penn State fans allowed to post here?
Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:54 pm to DaleDenton
I'm sure y'all had a packed house for Toledo
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:05 pm to DaleDenton
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I don't remember Les claiming playing in the sec-cg was a requirement when he was lobbying for the sugar bowl in 06.
Wasn't a NC game
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Luck is having a 5-6 Pitt know off a #2 WVU allowing LSU to back into a bcs-ncg.
And Iowa State upsetting OSU wasn't?
Bama had a once in a lifetime gift and it's not debatable.
But back on topic, he wins another at LSU and he's #1 without a doubt.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:19 pm to lsusteve1
Iowa state didn't knock off osu the last week of the season.
The voters voted bama ahead of osu because they were clearly the best team in he country, the fluke or luck of the year was LSU have the less inept offense and slightly better special teams play against bama in the regular season. The game in January proved that to be the fluke it was.
The voters voted bama ahead of osu because they were clearly the best team in he country, the fluke or luck of the year was LSU have the less inept offense and slightly better special teams play against bama in the regular season. The game in January proved that to be the fluke it was.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:36 pm to DaleDenton
You're an Arkansas fan...all your wins are flukes.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:38 am to geauxnavybeatbama
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I think he objectively is the best
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:53 am to FourThreeForty
I believe we had a guy that would have been considered the greatest coach ever at lsu....but he died in a plane crash
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:53 am to DaleDenton
Miles...since he has been here longer and won consistently.
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 7:55 am
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:56 am to DaleDenton
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Iowa state didn't knock off osu the last week of the season.
But that loss was the reason people voted Bama over OSU. I'm sure you knew that though.
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the fluke or luck of the year was LSU have the less inept offense and slightly better special teams play against bama in the regular season
Sort of how we felt in 12 & 14, I guess.
Appreciate your knowledge of Bama Football piggie.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 8:02 am to Choctaw
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You're an Arkansas fan...all your wins are flukes.
Yeah, I guess you are right. This "fluke" was in your backyard though.
2015 "Fluke"
Posted on 6/20/16 at 9:55 am to cajunbama
quote:I know you're trolling, but you're really ignorant.
Of course he is the best in LSU history. If he had stayed he would have won 2 more NC's for a total of 3. Les has won the SEC once with his players. FACT!!!
Posted on 6/20/16 at 11:57 am to FourThreeForty
Whoever coached the 1908 NC team was the best
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:31 pm to FourThreeForty
Saban's 2004 team had:
Marcus Spears
Corey Webster
Travis Daniels
Andrew Whitworth
Chevis Jackson
Claude Wroten
Craig Davis
Craig Steltz
Dwayne Bowe
Early Doucet
Glenn Dorsey
Jacob Hester
JaMarcus Russell
Joseph Addai
Kyle Williams
LaRon Landry
Matt Flynn
Melvin Oliver
Ronnie Prude
Rudy Niswanger
That's 20 NFL players, including 8 first-rounders and, by my count, ALL twenty lasted at least long enough in the NFL to garner a NFLPA pension check. Saban coached this team to a 9-3 season with a loss to Iowa in the Cap One bowl, and he was incredibly fortunate to get that (THREE missed PAT's from Oregon St.).
Coaching-wise Saban flat-out SUCKED that year.
Yeah, I consider Miles the best in the history of the program. It takes a special talent to last 12 years in the SEC, especially at a place like LSU where they eat thier own.
Marcus Spears
Corey Webster
Travis Daniels
Andrew Whitworth
Chevis Jackson
Claude Wroten
Craig Davis
Craig Steltz
Dwayne Bowe
Early Doucet
Glenn Dorsey
Jacob Hester
JaMarcus Russell
Joseph Addai
Kyle Williams
LaRon Landry
Matt Flynn
Melvin Oliver
Ronnie Prude
Rudy Niswanger
That's 20 NFL players, including 8 first-rounders and, by my count, ALL twenty lasted at least long enough in the NFL to garner a NFLPA pension check. Saban coached this team to a 9-3 season with a loss to Iowa in the Cap One bowl, and he was incredibly fortunate to get that (THREE missed PAT's from Oregon St.).
Coaching-wise Saban flat-out SUCKED that year.
Yeah, I consider Miles the best in the history of the program. It takes a special talent to last 12 years in the SEC, especially at a place like LSU where they eat thier own.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 4:08 pm to FourThreeForty
Though I consider that Saban is the best coach in America, as far as the LSU program is cocerned, Miles has won more games per year (10.2-9.6) and has shown staying power regardless of what the vocal minority thinks. I would rank Miles as number 1, Paul Dietzel at number 2 and Saban 3rd. Though rightfully given credit for resurrecting LSU, Saban inherited several All-SEC players, including 3 future NFL quarterbacks from Dinardo who was let go after having just 2 losing seasons in a row. Dinardo was the guy who really shocked the life back into Tiger nation after 6 straight losing seasons of Archer and Hallman. Dinardo won 26 games in his first 3 seasons, including 3 straight bowl wins before making a horrible hire at DC which doomed him.
Dietzel inherited a program on life support, endured a couple of losing seasons before rolling to 35 wins in his final 4 seasons (10 game seasons), including 1 national championship and 2 other top 3 finishes. The Good Lord only knows how much success Dietzel might have brought to LSU had he stayed longer than 7 years, leaving to coach his dream job at Army. For the other old-timers I would rank Cholly Mac at number 4. If Les hangs around for a couple more years he'll be approaching Mac's career wins mark. Hope he gets it.
Dietzel inherited a program on life support, endured a couple of losing seasons before rolling to 35 wins in his final 4 seasons (10 game seasons), including 1 national championship and 2 other top 3 finishes. The Good Lord only knows how much success Dietzel might have brought to LSU had he stayed longer than 7 years, leaving to coach his dream job at Army. For the other old-timers I would rank Cholly Mac at number 4. If Les hangs around for a couple more years he'll be approaching Mac's career wins mark. Hope he gets it.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 4:14 pm to victoire sécurisé
If we are comparing LSU only stats, Miles is imo the best coach LSU ever had. If Saban had been successful in the NFL and still running the show in Miami, this would not even be a question.
Les has had some fail moments for sure. But in 11 seasons he has been elite. Yes elite. In the hands down toughest conference and division within that conference, he has:
Won a Natty, played for another. Averaged over 10 wins a year, and has never won less than 8 in a year. Has never lost to an OOC opponent in the regular season, despite regularly playing big-name ranked opponents. Ultimate Les Miles Accolades List by Speedy
Some of you are some serious stat finding people. I challenge you to list either active or all-time, coaches (in a P5 conference) who have a minimum 10 year stretch with 1 team to include: 1 Natty, average 10 wins a year, and even a 75% win percentage over ooc teams. I bet the list isn't very big. I wonder if there are any at all since scholarship limits.
Les has had some fail moments for sure. But in 11 seasons he has been elite. Yes elite. In the hands down toughest conference and division within that conference, he has:
Won a Natty, played for another. Averaged over 10 wins a year, and has never won less than 8 in a year. Has never lost to an OOC opponent in the regular season, despite regularly playing big-name ranked opponents. Ultimate Les Miles Accolades List by Speedy
Some of you are some serious stat finding people. I challenge you to list either active or all-time, coaches (in a P5 conference) who have a minimum 10 year stretch with 1 team to include: 1 Natty, average 10 wins a year, and even a 75% win percentage over ooc teams. I bet the list isn't very big. I wonder if there are any at all since scholarship limits.
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