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re: Danny O'brien released from UT

Posted on 10/10/16 at 8:15 pm to
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 8:15 pm to
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an ER drug screen is inadmissible as evidence since there is no chain-of-custody


We aren't talking about legal proceedings. Only normal lab controls for handling and testing blood are relevant.
Posted by jsmoove
Member since Oct 2010
12627 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 8:22 pm to
I'd like to hear details. Seems like a pretty stand-up guy. If indeed drugs, couldn't have been his first or even 2nd failed test.
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 8:26 pm to
Why do you need details, he has an issue with drugs, the team had to let him go, he accepts responsibly. What else do you need to know? Kind of creepy if you ask me.
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
12702 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 8:27 pm to
But the coaching staff has no legal right to his blood work results from tje hospital. At least it seems like they wouldn't.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69901 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 8:32 pm to
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If indeed drugs, couldn't have been his first or even 2nd failed test.


It's like his 5th


We had no choice but to dismiss him, and throw his belongings in the trash
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 8:32 pm to
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Could also be a random that only now came back.


That's the only thing that makes sense to me. It's too soon with UT just going home Sunday for a drug test from the hospital to be completed and he's dismissed on Monday.
Posted by FrankWhite'56
Close to Austin - but not TOO close
Member since Feb 2013
984 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 8:54 pm to
He wouldn't have been drug tested in the hospital.
Posted by Volatile
Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
5471 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:31 pm to
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They wouldn't test for drugs in a football-related injury. Regardless, an ER drug screen is inadmissible as evidence since there is no chain-of-custody. If it was drugs, it was a completely unrelated University or NCAA test.



You act like colleges have to abide by the same rules (let alone evidentiary rules) as the State in a criminal proceeding.

They don't.
Posted by FrankWhite'56
Close to Austin - but not TOO close
Member since Feb 2013
984 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:44 pm to
I'm just going to leave it at this: a qualitative drug screen is not the "drug test" athletes submit to, so speculation based off of a possible drug screen he may or may not have had in the ER is dumb.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:57 pm to
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Regardless, an ER drug screen is inadmissible as evidence since there is no chain-of-custody.


Nonsense.

DUI cases are made all the time off of ER drug tests.

Alabama has a law that says if a mom has a baby and it tests positive for drugs or a pregnant mom tests positive for drugs, mom is going to jail. The evidence in those cases comes from hospital drug screens.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:58 pm to
Why would a hospital, taking blood, check for recreational drugs? That is something specific that they would have to be looking for.
Posted by Piscinin
the hills
Member since Nov 2015
3561 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:59 pm to
Well the rumor is this was caught in a drug test he took sometime last week
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 10:03 pm to
ahhhh, got ya.

Well that makes more sense.
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