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re: Dana Holgorsen: Time for FBS programs to stop playing FCS teams
Posted on 9/9/15 at 3:10 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
Posted on 9/9/15 at 3:10 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
FCS games are the worst. Terrible for the fans.
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Posted on 9/9/15 at 3:13 pm to MartyMoose09
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Thoughts? Anyone think this will come to an end in the SEC soon?
So we play Charleston Southern this year while eight other SEC teams get to play Vandy. What difference does it make?
Posted on 9/9/15 at 3:14 pm to TheJones
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Jacksonville State has a better shot at beating Auburn than most Big 10 schools
Like Wisconsin?
Posted on 9/9/15 at 3:16 pm to RD Dawg
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FBS schools are legally required to play FCS
BS...never heard of this and wouldn't hold up in court.
I don't know if "legally required" is the bext way to put it, but if we're talking about a state institution requiring state funding, then sure, a state legislature could make it so that the state institution has no choice.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 3:20 pm to MartyMoose09
That's just dumb!!!! 
It's not just about the football game, for these schools it is "REVENUE" to help fund other programs and academics within their schools.
Sure, it becomes an easy win for most Power 5 schools, but hell there have been times that Power 5 schools have lost.
For example, ULM probably makes $1.5+ million per year just from lining up and playing football against the likes of BAMA, LSU, and Georgia!!!
It's not just about the football game, for these schools it is "REVENUE" to help fund other programs and academics within their schools. Sure, it becomes an easy win for most Power 5 schools, but hell there have been times that Power 5 schools have lost.
For example, ULM probably makes $1.5+ million per year just from lining up and playing football against the likes of BAMA, LSU, and Georgia!!!
This post was edited on 9/9/15 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 9/9/15 at 3:21 pm to BamaGradinTn
I'm sure an individual member of a state legislature could possibly try to pass a bill like that.
But it would never pass or hold up in any court.
But it would never pass or hold up in any court.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 3:34 pm to MartyMoose09
Dana is a girl's name.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 3:54 pm to MartyMoose09
I am a fan of FCS and I think that would be terrible for that to happen. I understand maybe Power 5 conference schools not doing it but not all of FBS. That money goes towards funding the athletics for a lot of FCS schools.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 3:58 pm to Knight of Old
I wish that the SEC schools would keep their lower tier FBS and FCS games to in-state schools. I know Florida has played FAU recently. Tennessee played UT-Martin a few times recently. And MTSU. And UTC last year. LSU played McNeese, Northwestern St, and ULM. A&M played SFA, Southern Methodist, Sam Houston St, Lamar, and Texas State. SC played Furman, Citadel, Wofford, and Coastal Carolina. I see no problem with a rent-a-win against a lower tier school. Either in the 1st or 2nd week of the season, or right before a big game later in the season.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 4:30 pm to TU Rob
The problem is that some SEC schools play zero power 5 schools (inexcusable IMO) while others might play 2 or have an OOC in state rivalry game.
I believe it's a good idea to get everybody on the same page as much as possible regarding their OOC.
I believe it's a good idea to get everybody on the same page as much as possible regarding their OOC.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 6:50 pm to RD Dawg
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I'm sure an individual member of a state legislature could possibly try to pass a bill like that.
But it would never pass or hold up in any court.
They wouldn't have to pass a bill. All they would have to do would be to cut or withhold funding that the school wanted.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 7:19 pm to mikeboss550
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I agree with the Holgerson's statement, but IIRC SC and Clemson have to play an instate FCS team by state law. To keep money instate or some BS like that
I actually that that's a great law/rule. Why give an out of state school a huge payday, when local fcs schools also need one. Plus, it gives local kids a chance to play against their dream school/dream school's rival. Just dear God, limit it to one.
We played Western Carolina for a couple years, and all that we got out of it was chop blocks from a bunch of Appalachian hillbillies.
This post was edited on 9/9/15 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 9/9/15 at 7:35 pm to BamaGradinTn
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The wouldn't have to pass a bill at all
Yes,you still have to pass a budget which in turn funds public institutions every year.
No individual member can withhold funding on his own...he can only propose it in a budget.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 7:40 pm to Daowna
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From a competitive argument, yes I can agree that playing FCS teams is pretty weak.
But on a different consideration, don't a lot of these FCS teams fund their football programs by playing 1 or 2 big teams a year?
An FCS team agrees to go play some big bad FBS team in their big bad stadium, but comes back with funds for their Athletic Departments. Isn't the FCS essentially 'the farm' for a lot of transfers to FBS programs.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think keeping FCS programs stable financially, is a win for FBS teams in the long run.
There is also a recruiting advantage for the FCS schools who play. Being able to tell a 12th grader that he'll get to play in front of 90,000+ on national television is a really big deal at that rank.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 7:47 pm to RD Dawg
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The problem is that some SEC schools play zero power 5 schools (inexcusable IMO) while others might play 2 or have an OOC in state rivalry game.
I believe it's a good idea to get everybody on the same page as much as possible regarding their OOC.
OK. But in the era of the 4 team playoff this is going to hurt the SEC schools more than anyone else. Not only are your 8 conference games tougher than everyone else's, but now your other 4 games have to be "equal" to the B1G's and ACC's OOC games.
In such a situation a 4 team playoff looks absurd. Any team that plays 8 SEC games and 4 from the other P5 and still has 24 players standing should just be named Champ and get a trophy.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 7:48 pm to MartyMoose09
There are plenty of FCS teams that are better than the bottom levels of FBS. I'd rather see good football matchups regardless of division. To me, doing away with FCS wouldn't make a difference as teams would just schedule FBS teams at the same level or worse than the FCS team they'd schedule.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 8:03 pm to CCTider
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Clemson and South Carolina have to play an in state FCS school by state law
Can't find anything to back this up.I have seen several schedules for both teams throughuout the years where they haven't played any FCS schools.But in years when they have played FCS they have played in state.Looks like its more policy than anything and also is pretty logical considering they're seven FCS schools in SC.
And from the looks at it these schools are a bargin for USCe compared to paying non power 5 D1 schools to visit.
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It's actually a great law
No its not (if it is) both USC and Clemson's programs are self sustaining and the state should have no business telling them who to play.I agree with sentiment
and intent though.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 8:06 pm to Prof
FCS needs our money and a football game is a terrible thing to waste.
Dana needs to learn how to run the ball and how to play defense....those ridge runners up in WV are some the dumbest m'frickers I ever met and the girls are mostly slutgutters.
Go clean your coonskin cap Dana.
Dana needs to learn how to run the ball and how to play defense....those ridge runners up in WV are some the dumbest m'frickers I ever met and the girls are mostly slutgutters.
Go clean your coonskin cap Dana.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 8:08 pm to derSturm37
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8 from the SEC and 4 from the other power 5
Don't know where you heard 4.Its just 1 required in the Big 10 and 1 thats required for the new rule in the SEC.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 8:14 pm to RD Dawg
Why are people complaining about this? Are people forgetting that the season was only 11 games a little over a decade ago? I'm so sick of hearing about this. Quit whining and bitching, this is a collegiate sport. Those games fund entire athletic programs, allow walk on and third stringers a chance to play, and provide an affordable day game for families.
If they want to do away with FCS opponents, we will just go back to 11 games. How about that.
If they want to do away with FCS opponents, we will just go back to 11 games. How about that.
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