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re: Dak, SEC's best QB in the NFL, credits MSU
Posted on 12/23/16 at 4:49 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Posted on 12/23/16 at 4:49 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
The fact that his team lost to Bo Wallace makes it incorrect though.
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 6:04 pm to BattinRouge11
I'd take cam over dak at this point as well
Posted on 12/23/16 at 10:49 pm to UHTiger
And look at what Cam I'd doing this year with the same team that went to super bowl last year. Same team. Can't win shite. And Stafford has had supposedly stacked teams around him in his career with Detroit. Do you realize how many time "this was going to be the season Detroit finally does something?" And they never did. Now the talent's back to shite.! He choked and doesn't lead his team.
Dak's best quality is the fact that players want to play harder for him. It's not a measurable. But it's obvious. It was obvious from the first step he took on States practice field. If your one of those idiots that's waiting for his collapse ("next year MAN!"), then it's going to suck for you. Barring injury, he is there to stay. Yeah he has an elite OL. SO? He shined in the SEC with the weakest OL in P5 football. So of course this is like heaven for him. He'll have his bad games. They all do. But he has "it" and always has.
Dak's best quality is the fact that players want to play harder for him. It's not a measurable. But it's obvious. It was obvious from the first step he took on States practice field. If your one of those idiots that's waiting for his collapse ("next year MAN!"), then it's going to suck for you. Barring injury, he is there to stay. Yeah he has an elite OL. SO? He shined in the SEC with the weakest OL in P5 football. So of course this is like heaven for him. He'll have his bad games. They all do. But he has "it" and always has.
Posted on 12/23/16 at 11:57 pm to Kafkas father
The MSU OL took huge hits along with hopeful guys not panning out. So please, if MSU had had a good OL things might have been different.
The future of our OL looks bright but it's been very average the last few years.
The future of our OL looks bright but it's been very average the last few years.
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A good example is Dak's stat line from last year's game against Bama... Dak Prescott 26 rushs 14 yards 0.5 per 0 td 17 long
Posted on 12/24/16 at 12:00 am to MullenBoys
I thought true Sec fans like you would have known there has been a reason we couldn't run the ball vs anyone. It's called the OL. I think some changes made it better towards end of the season but I like the potential going forward.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 12:07 am to AFDawg11
As a Giants fan I have the right to say that Eli is a turnover machine and can't win crap without an elite o-line. Both of his super bowls were a result of fantastic defense and great o-lines. We haven't had a good line in 5 years and he's sucked every year because of it. And Stafford is meh. Had one of the best receivers ever and he still hasn't won anything. Cam is good for sure. Again, he did well because of a great line and defense last year. That's what it's all about in the NFL.
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 7:28 am to DawgGONIT
You couldn't be more wrong and yes as a rookie he's already better than Stafford.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 7:40 am to StopRobot
Glad to see him doing so well. Always kind of liked him and hated we had to beat him every year.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 7:53 am to rec207
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How many times have you said that he would eventually regress this season? Yeah 88% completion percentage against one of the best defenses in the league is HORRIBLE.
So yeah you are full of shite. You know how I know? B/c Tampa ain't got one of the best defenses in the NFL. Far from it.
What about Daks performance vs:
WAS 195 yards
MIN 139 yards
NYG 165 yards
No way Stafford couldn't put up those numbers if he were on DALLAS. Less than 200 passing yards, yeah Stafford can't do that.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 7:59 am to DawgGONIT
So is Dallas getting the Bama treatment now? Oh I could coach Bama to 10 wins a year with that talent.....blah blah blah.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 7:59 am to thatdude1985
quote:So you are saying Dak could take the 0-16 Lions and within a few years turn the whole organization around and be playoff bound?
You couldn't be more wrong and yes as a rookie he's already better than Stafford.
Again, Dak is in the best situation for a rookie qb he could as for. DAL has a great DEF, and a great Oline. Dak is serviceable, but will show his true rookie colors when DAL needs Dak to win the game for them in the playoffs.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 8:06 am to DawgGONIT
Serviceable? I'd say based on his stats he's more than serviceable.... give the guy some credit. Dallas is usually a shite show and look at them now. They're considered the best team in the NFL with a rookie QB/RB leading the way. I can acknowledge that Dallas was close to putting the pieces together based on how good the Online is but as a whole they are much much better with Dak as the QB. Romo isn't hurt anymore and can't get the job back from a rookie.....that's very telling on how "serviceable" he really is.
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Posted on 12/24/16 at 8:06 am to DawgGONIT
Still won 2/3 even with that bad arse o line not protecting Dak very much in those games. He still managed to get over a 108. QB rating in 2 of those games. Has Stafford ever won at the road at Heinz field or at Lambeau? Surely he is, since he's played GB for for so many years. Dak is battling Brady and Ryan for top QBR in the NFL with 2 weeks to play, the 3 of them are comfortably out ahead the rest of the league.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 8:06 am to thatdude1985
quote:So you are saying Dak could take CLE to the playoffs if he were their qb instead of RG3?
So is Dallas getting the Bama treatment now? Oh I could coach Bama to 10 wins a year with that talent.....blah blah blah.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 8:09 am to DawgGONIT
They won 4 games a year ago. I know Zeke helps a lot but they are 12-2, so how are they that much better?
Posted on 12/24/16 at 8:10 am to DawgGONIT
Not sure why you keep bringing up awful teams like that. Wasn't your argument that Stafford is better? He didnt do that either and NO ONE can take the browns to the playoffs. They need to move that team from Cleveland and change names.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 8:13 am to Klongdawg
His argument is pretty bland.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 8:14 am to thatdude1985
This is maybe Staffords best year as a pro and he misses out on the pro bowl, Dak made the pro bowl in his rookie year in the same year, that might tell you all you need to know.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 8:19 am to DawgGONIT
Do you even watch the NFL? During the last 5 or 6 weeks Tampa's D was a turnover forcing machine. Yeah, they might not have been good back in September, but in the present Tampa's D had been dominant until it ran into Dak and the Boys. By the way, I'm a Lion fan, and I like Stafford. At times it seems he is on his way to being elite, but he just can't get over the hump. Maybe, Detroit can get that first division title since 93.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 8:22 am to Klongdawg
Exactly. If you can't appreciate what Dak is doing then I don't know what to tell you. The kid gives praise to his team and the SEC for why he was ready for the spotlight. I like that...
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