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re: Could Saban Ride Off Into The Sunset?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:07 pm to Bamatab
Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:07 pm to Bamatab
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Do you honestly see a person with Saban's personality and mindset being able to just kick around the lake house all day? The guy is the quintessential football coach, and wouldn't be happy doing anything else. I have a feeling he's going to coach until he keels over.
He strikes me as someone who has to stay busy. He would probably go nuts without having a goal or purpose. Everyone isn't cut out for retirement.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:26 pm to higgs_boson
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I just wish he would go to Michigan so we could see how long it takes for Urban's health to take a turn for the worse.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:35 pm to bama my heart
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Coaching did not kill coach Bryant, he had a few habits that were not good for him. You can ask Coach Dye, because he has the same habits.
I love Coach Dye, but you would have to ask him before noon. I think Happy Hour starts around 8 AM these days...
Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:36 pm to RT1941
I think that's his plan when he hired lane....retire and let Kirby become head coach with lane oc
Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:37 pm to DyeHardDylan
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The Alabama job has been detrimental to coaches. If Saban is smart, he'll get out soon before he croaks like Bear Bryant did when the job killed him. Or maybe he'll underachieve and get bricks thrown at his house, along with death threats, like Bill Curry and his family. Perhaps he'll end up like Gene Stallings and Bama will try and tarnish his reputation to get him out. Given the stress, an affair with a secretary or excursion to a strip club might not be out of the question either.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:47 pm to higgs_boson
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I have thought about this before. I do not think we can really compare Bryant and Saban.
I look back on the titles Saban won. If not for the BCS, LSU would probably have played a lesser quality opponent and won in 2011. In 2012, Notre Dame would have probably played a crappy Pac 12 team and been voted number one because of bias. I think Alabama would have gotten screwed out of at least two of those championships.
I wonder how many times Bryant got screwed because he was denied a head to head.
It is funny in retrospect how I moaned about the BCS when the truth is it was pretty good to the SEC (although LSU fans might disagree)
The BCS was great for the SEC and would be for any dominant conference. Now the one thing I worry about is having to beat AU twice or UF, UGA, LSU, etc. This is what's going to happen every year if we go to 8 teams and a lot of years with the current 4 team PO. Does AU want to play us again before FSU last year? I don't think so.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:55 pm to bama1959
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I have thought about this before. I do not think we can really compare Bryant and Saban.
I look back on the titles Saban won. If not for the BCS, LSU would probably have played a lesser quality opponent and won in 2011. In 2012, Notre Dame would have probably played a crappy Pac 12 team and been voted number one because of bias. I think Alabama would have gotten screwed out of at least two of those championships.
I wonder how many times Bryant got screwed because he was denied a head to head.
BTW, no matter how many NC's CNS ends up with no one will match Bryant's 13 SEC's (12 at Bama 1 at UK). There were only 10 teams then but none of the new teams (Mizzou, USC, TAMU, and Arky) have won an SEC Championship so his are equal so far.
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 12/16/14 at 3:11 pm to Mizz-SEC
Two more seasons and he is vested in the state retirement system. I think they average your two top earning years. Someone less lazy should do the math, but its a lot of money.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 3:17 pm to Bamatab
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Do you honestly see a person with Saban's personality and mindset being able to just kick around the lake house all day? The guy is the quintessential football coach, and wouldn't be happy doing anything else. I have a feeling he's going to coach until he keels over.
I agree with this. The only thing I could ever see him doing other than coaching at Alabama is going back to the NFL for another stint. Success at that level is the only feather still missing from his cap.
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 12/16/14 at 3:26 pm to bhamtbone
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Two more seasons and he is vested in the state retirement system
He's also two years from being vested in the NFL's retirement system. Maybe he would go two more years at Alabama, then two more in the NFL and get both?
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 12/16/14 at 3:46 pm to Mizz-SEC
I read somewhere on the internet that the game had passed him by anyway. So good.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 4:12 pm to bama1959
I think you are right about Bryant btw.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 4:15 pm to bama1959
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I have thought about this before. I do not think we can really compare Bryant and Saban.
I look back on the titles Saban won. If not for the BCS, LSU would probably have played a lesser quality opponent and won in 2011. In 2012, Notre Dame would have probably played a crappy Pac 12 team and been voted number one because of bias. I think Alabama would have gotten screwed out of at least two of those championships.
Maybe, but if the same rules were in effect as in Bryant's era, we probably would have won it in 2008. We would have been in the Sugar Bowl as the undefeated SEC champion and could have cherry picked our opponent.
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 12/16/14 at 4:22 pm to BamaGradinTn
If Saban really wanted to prove his greatness he would take a non elite job and see if he could turn them into a power.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 4:22 pm to RT1941
I hope not, Auburn has had some of it`s greatest success in the last few years partly because of the Saban effect, great competition made us get better.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 4:24 pm to bhamtbone
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Two more seasons and he is vested in the state retirement system. I think they average your two top earning years. Someone less lazy should do the math, but its a lot of money.
While it is still a lot of money, that only counts his actual salary which is something like $600K (the amount paid by the University as an employee). The rest if from Tide Pride, coaches show, endorsements, camps, etc.
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 12/16/14 at 4:25 pm to JesusQuintana
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If Saban really wanted to prove his greatness he would take a non elite job and see if he could turn them into a power.
You mean like LSU?
Or Alabama post-Stallings and pre-Saban?
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 12/16/14 at 4:26 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Maybe, but if the same rules were in effect as in Bryant's era, we probably would have won it in 2008. We would have been in the Sugar Bowl as the undefeated SEC champion and could have cherry picked out opponent.
Good point, I still think on balance the BCS was very beneficial to the SEC.
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