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re: Could Saban Ride Off Into The Sunset?

Posted on 12/16/14 at 8:58 am to
Posted by jb4
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 8:58 am to
Or here could pull an urban meyer. Retire for a year, work for ESPN than return to coaching for another 5 year run at UGA.
Posted by GIbson05
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 8:58 am to
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Battle retires. Saban named AD. Smart named HC. Kiffin remains as OC. The well oiled machine just keeps spitting out championships. Oh yeah...and Boom to Bama as DC. (That part's a joke. )

We take Chiz as DC just to piss Aubie off
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:01 am to
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"with a sneaky good personality "

Said for the first time, by anyone, ever


He is actually really good when he has done the Championship game. He breaks out of the coach speak process and lets his personality out.


I actually agree, but you never see this said by the media. Certain players especially can get him to warm up. It was a funny story a few years ago when Cody started sitting by Saban on the team bus when other players felt intimidated. And the walk-on Rob Ezell started doing Saban impersonations...he got a kick out of that.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:03 am to
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Oh yeah...and Boom to Bama as DC. (That part's a joke. )


Well, it would certainly be an upgrade over his current job.
Posted by cwsec
Member since Feb 2012
194 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:09 am to
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point to the spot on the doll where alabama touched you.
so funny
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37247 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:11 am to
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If Saban is smart, he'll get out soon


Yeah frick winning national championships.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44017 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:16 am to
I don't agree with the OP.

But were Saban to retire from the HC gig at Alabama, that certainly doesn't mean that there don't exist many other avenues in the private sector for him to get his cfb fill.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30208 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:19 am to
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If Saban is smart, he'll get out soon
He's still got work to do and he knows it.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:19 am to
Why I think Saban will be the next AD...

1. Battle is 73 years old. Obviously was only hired to keep the seat warm and will himself retire within the next 2 years.
2. Saban cares about other sports at the university...evidenced by his help recruiting other athletes, speaking to other teams, etc.
3. Saban always likes another challenge...at least that's what everyone says whenever there's an NFL or big time college job open.
4. Smart slides right into the HC job. Smooth transition. Program doesn't skip a beat. Over time, Smart puts his own stamp on the program, but there would be zero disruption to program. Top recruiting class is maintained. Process continues.
5. Most important reason..."Cub" wants it. And as we have seen in the last month, what Cub wants, Cub gets. How do you cross a guy who can literally speak an entire D-I football program out of existence?
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:50 am to
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4. Smart slides right into the HC job. Smooth transition. Program doesn't skip a beat. Over time, Smart puts his own stamp on the program, but there would be zero disruption to program. Top recruiting class is maintained. Process continues.


This is where you're wrong.

ADs don't go on recruiting visits. In fact, with the strictness of the rulebook, I bet ADs rarely get to even talk to recruits at all.

Smart would have to be just as good of a recruiter as Saban to maintain the current run of dominance in recruiting. Further, his own "stamp" is not going to be equal to the GOAT. It will be different and as history tells us most likely not as good.

Does Smart beat LSU this year? Come back to beat Auburn? Inspire his players to reload every year? Has he ever had full control of the defense?

Further, Kiffin's ego is in check because Saban is alpha. You think ole Lane wants to take orders from Kirby?
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15108 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:53 am to
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But were Saban to retire from the HC gig at Alabama, that certainly doesn't mean that there don't exist many other avenues in the private sector for him to get his cfb fill.

But it's not about a "college football fill", it's about being able to implement his "process" on a daily basis. He can't do that as an analyst for ESPN. The guy is (for a lack of a better term), a control freak. I don't think he would be satisfied doing anything other than running (with complete control) a football program. The only thing that would be comparable outside of running a football program would be running a Fortune 500 company, and I don't see that happening.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:56 am to
He's going to coach until it kills him. He couldn't handle retirement or being an AD.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44017 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:12 am to
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He can't do that as an analyst for ESPN.

I don't disagree with that at all.
I was thinking more along the lines of his own venture(s) (I.e., a George Whitfield type of enterprise for novice coaches, athletic apparel/equipment company, youth sports, private foundation work, restaurant(s), product endorsement, public speaking, recruiting consulting, etc.).
The sky's the limit.

But again, I don't see him walking away from his current job yet.
Posted by BammerDelendaEst
Member since Jan 2014
2212 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:14 am to
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He's going to coach until it kills him. He couldn't handle retirement or being an AD.


This. He'll quit when he starts to lose it and be dead within a year.

Better than than hanging around long after he loses it like Paterno.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:16 am to
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Most important reason..."Cub" wants it. And as we have seen in the last month, what Cub wants, Cub gets. How do you cross a guy who can literally speak an entire D-I football program out of existence?



Cub turns 70 this year. Doubt he will be doing much more than drooling in about three years. Not trying to be mean, but look at pictures of the guy. He has been ridden hard and hung up wet.

This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 10:22 am
Posted by kudzoo
Member since Nov 2011
656 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:12 am to
Coach Saban is today's Coach Bryant, he's driven to compete just like CPB. Coach Bryant only "retired" because he knew he didn't have the energy anymore to maintain the high standards he had set at his beloved university.

Coach Saban won't have the same problem, he's in excellent health. Little Debbie's are probably his worst vice. He looks to be good to go for at least another 4-6 years unless he suffers burnout. (Which seems unlikely.)

As for going somewhere else? Forget that, when he saw that overflowing crowd at his 1st A-Day game, I think he realized that he had finally found the one place to match his passion for CFB and WINNING.

It's a match made in heaven.

Posted by restore the roar
Member since Nov 2011
193 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:14 am to
Nope, he is too driven. I see five more years, three more titles.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5150 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:15 am to
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The Alabama job has been detrimental to coaches. If Saban is smart, he'll get out soon before he croaks like Bear Bryant did when the job killed him. Or maybe he'll underachieve and get bricks thrown at his house, along with death threats, like Bill Curry and his family. Perhaps he'll end up like Gene Stallings and Bama will try and tarnish his reputation to get him out. Given the stress, an affair with a secretary or excursion to a strip club might not be out of the question either


Tough being little brother, huh?
Posted by TROCKS50
Member since Jan 2013
1110 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:17 am to


He'll stop at 74. Look for about 5-6 more MNC's between now and then
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:18 am to
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Smart would have to be just as good of a recruiter as Saban to maintain the current run of dominance in recruiting.




You are talking about the same Kirby Smart that I am, right?

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Further, his own "stamp" is not going to be equal to the GOAT. It will be different and as history tells us most likely not as good.


Duhhhh, yeah, there can only be one GOAT...hence the "G".

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Does Smart beat LSU this year?


Maybe even without OT.

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Come back to beat Auburn?


Why not?

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Inspire his players to reload every year?


Sure.

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Has he ever had full control of the defense?


And this is relevant because...?

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You think ole Lane wants to take orders from Kirby?


Well, if you were you one of the misguided folks who predicted/hoped that the Kiffin hire would be a disaster, you probably think so. But why wouldn't he? Maybe Kirby gives him even more freedom.
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 11:26 am
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