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re: Condoleeza picking final 4 ?

Posted on 12/9/14 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 12:51 pm to
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Many of your points are irrelevant.
Never once have I said she cant perform on the committee perfectly fine. I am merely arguing the notion of "how much she knows about football"
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 12:56 pm to
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why, on some plays, a team drops back 8 players & only rushes 3.

If she said this, then she followed it up with, "when it's 3rd and 2."
Posted by Keltic Tiger
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 1:20 pm to
This was not something leaked from the committee; it was just part of a conversation one of ESPN's talking heads had with someone on the committee & that talking head was just repeating what he'd been told. As for me being sexist or racist...not at all. It's more along the lines of thinking along the lines of what Danielson said last wk when asked if he wanted on the committee. He said that there were "a long list" of people who actively wanted on the committee, and that it became apparent early on that politics..not the DC kind..was playing a major role in who got on. So, was she not placed on the committee because of politics? And what is more PC now than having a female, black or white, on an all white male committee? He wanted nothing do do with it.
Posted by SpqrTiger
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:04 pm to
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No, it's not. Hell, there have been successful coaches who have never played the game. Just because you have played the game doesn't mean you are knowledgeable about it either.


Wait... so you're trying to tell me that there are successful coaches out there who have never played a down of football? Now, mind you... I didn't say Division 1 football or college football. I said football.

I know Cutcliffe, O'Leary and Freeze never played college football. But Cutcliffe and Freeze BOTH played high school ball. O'Leary claims he never played a down of football, but he's also a known liar about his background.

So at most, all your argument has among active coaches is O'Leary.

Forgive me if I'm not impressed by your argument.

I happen to like Condoleeza Rice. She's even qualified to be president. I clearly am not. But I guaran-damn-tee you I know more about football than Condoleeza Rice, and a big part of that comes from having PLAYED.
Posted by NaturalLight00
Member since Nov 2011
575 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 4:19 pm to
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SpqrTiger


Mike Leach.

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But I guaran-damn-tee you I know more about football than Condoleeza Rice, and a big part of that comes from having PLAYED.


No, you don't. She has watched every meaningful game this year, and wasn't added to the committee "just because."

I have never played a down of football beyond the grade school level, and yet I'm able to make posts like this when I want to be serious and talk about football.

I think everyone in this thread is vastly overestimating how much they actually know about football.
Posted by bamagreycoat
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 4:21 pm to
I like Cunnilingus Rice. I'd take her for POTUS over hillary any day.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 4:53 pm to
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lsupride87

How many women have you met truly understand football?



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Never once have I said she cant perform on the committee perfectly fine. I am merely arguing the notion of "how much she knows about football"


This is a perfect example of what we call "backtracking".
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 4:55 pm to
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Keltic Tiger
Condoleeza picking final 4 ?
This was not something leaked from the committee; it was just part of a conversation one of ESPN's talking heads had with someone on the committee & that talking head was just repeating what he'd been told.


I'm not sure you understand the meaning of the word "leaked".

Again...if anyone on that committee had leaked...oops, "conversed"...with anyone from the media, we'd be hearing about a lot more than this.
Posted by observant1
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:07 pm to
Her dad was a coach.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94906 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:23 pm to
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This is a perfect example of what we call "backtracking".

Not at all. I dont think she truly understands football, but I still think she is smart enough to perform serviceably on the committee.
This post was edited on 12/9/14 at 7:25 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94906 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:24 pm to
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Her dad was a coach.
and your point? My dad is a lawyer and I havent got a clue what the hell is going on in the legal world
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
Member since Jan 2009
25607 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:34 pm to
How can you possibly discern whether someone you've never met has a understanding of a sport?

If you've only met one female who understands football, then you really haven't met many intelligent females.
Posted by NaturalLight00
Member since Nov 2011
575 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:35 pm to
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lsupride87


This is getting ridiculous. What do you define as an "understanding" of football?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94906 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:40 pm to
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If you've only met one female who understands football, then you really haven't met many intelligent females.
What the hell does intelligence and football have to do with one another?
Posted by observant1
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:42 pm to
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I havent got a clue what the hell is going on


U said it.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:42 pm to
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But I guaran-damn-tee you I know more about football than Condoleeza Rice, and a big part of that comes from having PLAYED.


Why is this so important to you that you make wildly unsubstantiated claims? You have absolutely no idea how much or how little she knows about football. If you had a shred of real evidence about the extent of her knowledge, you'd be trumpeting and linking to it like crazy here. All you have right now is personal supposition based on a flawed premise -- that it's literally impossible for someone who hasn't played to have extensive and thorough knowledge of the topic. Unless you can present actual evidence to that effect, all this nattering is simply your ego and prejudices being tossed out here like a bad case of Internet bravado. It's possible you do know more than she does. It's also entirely possible that she'd make you look like an idiot if it came to empirical testing on the topic. But it's entirely certain that you're making yourself look like an idiot by charging ahead full speed in this debate without bothering to offer even the slightest substantive grounding for your claims.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94906 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:43 pm to
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This is getting ridiculous. What do you define as an "understanding" of football?
Ughh again people? I am sure she can watch games and tell who is better, she is very intelligent. the arguments started when someone said she knows "more about football then 90% of this board and men" I balked at that completely. I dont believe she could explain to me the difference in a 3-4 and a 4-3, why it is important for the defensive end to set the edge, why slot receivers get favorable matchups etc etc. I still think she is fine on the committee though
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:22 pm to
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balked at that completely. I dont believe she could explain to me the difference in a 3-4 and a 4-3, why it is important for the defensive end to set the edge, why slot receivers get favorable matchups etc etc.


Why don't you believe that? My sister can without any problem, and, you guessed it, she's never played football in her life.
Posted by NaturalLight00
Member since Nov 2011
575 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:25 pm to
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I dont believe she could explain to me the difference in a 3-4 and a 4-3, why it is important for the defensive end to set the edge, why slot receivers get favorable matchups etc etc. I still think she is fine on the committee though


So, because she did not play football, she doesn't know the difference between a 3-4 and a 4-3?

Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:54 pm to
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why it is important for the defensive end to set the edge


To prevent the offense from "turning the corner" and having leverage/control on the perimeter. And it generally helps if your end is a big, physical guy too.

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I dont believe she could explain to me the difference in a 3-4 and a 4-3


4-3 is four down linemen and three linebackers. 3-4 is three down lineman and four linebackers. And that's a really, really basic explanation without getting into shooting the gaps, flexibility of schemes, and etc.

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why slot receivers get favorable matchups etc etc


Are you referring to the slot receiver usually being quicker than the linebacker and safety in that case? I'm curious as to what you're defining as a favorable matchup.

And I wouldn't consider myself all that knowledgable about football.

All that said, given her Dad was a football coach (and she admits spending a lot of time with him while he was coaching) then she probably has the answers you're looking for.
This post was edited on 12/9/14 at 8:54 pm
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