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re: Committee should be disbanded
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:13 pm to Titus Pullo
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:13 pm to Titus Pullo
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**And I've been saying PSU was the best BIG team since the committee first released their rankings in case anyone wants to look try my post history.
I think we'll just believe you
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:15 pm to TigerChief10
So Penn State should be in the playoff because they're beating the same team Alabama beat 52-6 by a score of 42-35?
Here's an idea..don't lose by 39 points versus a conference opponent. USC lost 3 games this year...let Ohio State play them and I guarantee you they aren't losing 31-0.
Clemson and Bama clearly the 2 best teams this year..3/4 were irrelevant
Here's an idea..don't lose by 39 points versus a conference opponent. USC lost 3 games this year...let Ohio State play them and I guarantee you they aren't losing 31-0.
Clemson and Bama clearly the 2 best teams this year..3/4 were irrelevant
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:16 pm to Mattwells90
I am probably the only one in the world that thinks this. I think they should open the playoff to every BCS conference champion and let them have at it. If Bama wins the conference then they are the only team in from the SEC. the rules are really simple, win your conference.
That would never ever happen because they'd lose so much money by losing the major markets that aren't in and another Dame would lose its independence or always be out.
That would never ever happen because they'd lose so much money by losing the major markets that aren't in and another Dame would lose its independence or always be out.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:18 pm to emanresu
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If you "honor" the head to head, then you have to ignore the fact that PENN STATE LOST MORE GAMES
This is such a weak argument. If you ignore the head-to-head and conference championships, then why even keep score or have conference championsbips?
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:21 pm to Bench McElroy
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Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. A 10-3 Clemson team that won the ACC should have been in the BCS National Championship Game over Bama in 2011. After all, they won their conference while Bama did not.
Such a gump. How about 1 loss in OT Oklahoma State University- who won their conference and beat more Top 25 opponents than Alabama? As if Clemson was in the conversation beyond Tidefans.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:22 pm to Atxgump
Bama fan complaining about the "eye" test ...
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:23 pm to Atxgump
Penn State shouldn't have lost by 39 or to an unranked Pitt team if they wanted to be in
Fact is Ohio State only had one close loss. They deserved to be in.
Fact is Ohio State only had one close loss. They deserved to be in.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:23 pm to TigerChief10
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think we'll just believe you
Yeah I wasn't going thru all that garbage either.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:23 pm to Othello
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This is such a weak argument. If you ignore the head-to-head and conference championships, then why even keep score or have conference championsbips?
Great point...Let me add to that...The spin doctors are only focusing on the loses. Why not include the fact that both teams prior to the CPF selection the fact that both teams had the same number of WINS which included head to head and the Big 10 Title game...
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:23 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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1. A lot more weight should be placed on a conference champion. There has to be a real incentive to win your conference. It should almost be an automatic qualification should a team like PSU win the head to head and beat the team that is in consideration.
Three of the four CFP participants were conference champions. Eleven of twelve have been since the inception of the CFP. Why are people acting like the committee places only minuscule importance on that factor? Hell, lots of people were arguing that it should have been OSU and PSU, leaving out the PAC champion. It's just odd how so many people see one example of a non-CC participant and completely forget that the statistics do not support the hysteria.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:24 pm to silverstreak02
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Clemson and Bama clearly the 2 best teams this year..3/4 were irrelevant
You won't find much disagreement about that here.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:26 pm to randomways
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Why are people acting like the committee places only minuscule importance on that factor?
Because the Committee has said Head to Head and Conference titles do not weigh unless it is close...They determined OSU was "A Cut Above" at least a full month before the end of the of the season and could not walk back that stance or look like horses assess...which they look like anyway
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:26 pm to Atxgump
"Toughest division in football" lost all its bowl games except Wisky, 'Minnesota, and penn state
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:27 pm to Atxgump
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Travesty letting Alabama in circa 2011
FIFY
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This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:27 pm to Atxgump
Worked ok for Bama getting in title game over Oklahoma State
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:27 pm to Atxgump
Wait, penn state didn't lose 2 regular season games?
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:27 pm to Bench McElroy
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Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. A 10-3 Clemson team that won the ACC should have been in the BCS National Championship Game over Bama in 2011. After all, they won their conference while Bama did not.
Yeah we would've played Clemson, bro.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:31 pm to Othello
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argument. If you ignore the head-to-head and conference championships, then why even keep score or have conference championsbips?
Except it's not. Every game counts. Don't lose 2 games.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:33 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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Because the Committee has said Head to Head and Conference titles do not weigh unless it is close...They determined OSU was "A Cut Above" at least a full month before the end of the of the season and could not walk back that stance or look like horses assess...which they look like anyway
That's not a particularly compelling argument, given that the committee has actually made a point of dropping teams that win. Whatever else you can say about them, it's hard to make a convincing argument they don't do re-rankings on a week-to-week basis rather than stay the course.
And, once again, 11 of 12 have been conference champions. I'd ask you for references to the claim that the committee ever actually said any such thing about the h-to-h and CCs -- Long has repeatedly said quite the opposite -- but references aren't necessary when the actual results are 11 of 12.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:35 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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2. Playing a 13th game should weigh more. OSU got a free pass by not getting a 13th game to be exposed to a loss and key injury.
I actually agree with that much more than giving more weight to PSU for having the conference championship.
In the end, I think both OSU and Penn state had valid reasons to be in the playoff and neither had a gripe if they were left out due to OSU losing to PSU and PSU having two losses.
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