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re: Coaching tiers of the SEC. Discuss.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 2:28 pm to RazorHawk
Posted on 5/27/14 at 2:28 pm to RazorHawk
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Bielema did it three years in a row (I understand about the third).
while going 17-7. how do you avg 2 losses a season and win your conf?
and i say again did not win a bowl game during those years...
he only won 2 in his last 8 years... 1 barely against a garbage arky team and another against a sub-par miami team
barry alvarez had similar feats early in his career at Wisc... nothing special
he coached a team(decently) at the right time that is all
he also lost his biggest games...
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 2:32 pm to Wardamnbulldog
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1 barely against a garbage arky team
We won the West that year.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 2:38 pm to Stonehog
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We won the West that year.
with the third best record in the division.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 2:40 pm to Stonehog
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We won the West that year.
yes with a 10-2 record you won the West over a 10-2 LSU and a 10-2 AU then failed us in ATL
stupid ties i hate that year... ok... so maybe that arky team had some pretty good players on it but i think you are missing the point
and im pretty sure the only reason arky made it is because AU and LSU already played UF
ETA: AU n LSU both won their post-season games... IJS
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 5/27/14 at 2:56 pm to parkjas2001
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with the third best record in the division.
7-1 was actually the best record in the division.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 3:02 pm to Stonehog
10-4 is not better than 11-2.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 3:03 pm to Wardamnbulldog
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and im pretty sure the only reason arky made it is because AU and LSU already played UF
LOL. Not sure how the whole thing works, are you.
Arkansas had already won the division outright before the LSU game that year, also had the best record in the division.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 3:06 pm to parkjas2001
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10-4 is not better than 11-2.
You said we won the division with the 3rd best record. The SEC championship game and our bowl game happened after we won the division. So what you said is wrong.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 3:07 pm to Wardamnbulldog
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and as he said he was not NFL material when GM arrived but a product of coaching by GM and HIS staff
You really don't think there was anyone on Auburn's roster that was worthy of making it to the NFL until Gus came along?
Posted on 5/27/14 at 3:09 pm to DaleDenton
AU lost to Arky and UGA but beat LSU and UF
arky lost to USC(non-conf) and LSU but beat AU
LSU lost to AU and UF but beat Arky
they had the better conf record so despite being skull drug by USC and having the same overall record arky advanced
arky lost to USC(non-conf) and LSU but beat AU
LSU lost to AU and UF but beat Arky
they had the better conf record so despite being skull drug by USC and having the same overall record arky advanced
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 5/27/14 at 3:12 pm to cas4t
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You really don't think there was anyone on Auburn's roster that was worthy of making it to the NFL until Gus came along?
seriously no. i did expect Mason and Ford to have a good year but not that good and no one saw Greg going especially 2nd overall
Posted on 5/27/14 at 3:32 pm to Wardamnbulldog
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they had the better conf record so despite being skull drug by USC and having the same overall record arky advanced
The didn't have the same record, Arkansas was 7-1, LSU and Auburn were 6-2.
We played one of the best teams in the country, while others picked up a sunbelt opponent, that is the overall disparity.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:04 pm to Stonehog
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They had an offensive lineman drafted second overall Wardamnbulldog.
They also had a 1000 yard RB when the rest of the team was shite. Coates was also only a freshman. That seems like some NFL talent to me.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:07 pm to gatordmb89
2=3. Malzhan not at Richt's level.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:14 pm to gatordmb89
Tier 1
Nick Saban
Steve Spurrier
Les Miles
Tier 2
Gus Malzahn
Mark Richt
Gary Pinkel
Tier 3
Kevin Sumlim
Hugh Freeze
Dan Mullen
Will Muschamp
Tier 4
Mark Stoops
Bret Bielema
Butch Jones
Vandy's coach
Nick Saban
Steve Spurrier
Les Miles
Tier 2
Gus Malzahn
Mark Richt
Gary Pinkel
Tier 3
Kevin Sumlim
Hugh Freeze
Dan Mullen
Will Muschamp
Tier 4
Mark Stoops
Bret Bielema
Butch Jones
Vandy's coach
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:29 pm to RazorHawk
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I think, given time, he will right the ship in Fayetteville. Of course, that may not mean winning the SEC, as that is a more difficult feat at Arkansas than at Alabama, LSU, Florida or some of the other perennial SEC powers.
I think Bret needs to work the JUCO route like Gus has mastered. Was reading an article this morning of how Snyder has been able to compete at a high level with the ton of JUCOs he has brought over. They mentioned how Gus is the same way.
Cam
Fairly
Duke
CAP
Moncrief
Are just a few that already have or will provide a huge boost immediately. I would have went JUCO for a decent QB. Ole Miss did it, Auburn did it twice, we did it, and Coker is a transfer so I mean almost the same difference.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:51 pm to Wardamnbulldog
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seriously no. i did expect Mason and Ford to have a good year but not that good and no one saw Greg going especially 2nd overall
So your belief is that Malzahn waved a magical wand over Robinson, then he became a first round pick? A lot of players come out of nowhere that get drafted high as hell. Some offensive lineman who wasn't even on the radar the previous year (Eric Fisher), nor in a power conference, was selected #1 overall in the 2013 draft. Ziggy Ansah and Eric Fisher from last year, Khalil Mack, Aaron Dobson, Blake Bortles, Eric Ebron, from this year. These dudes were buried under the radar the year prior to their breakout, yet all five were top 15 picks.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:01 pm to parkjas2001
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10-4 is not better than 11-2.
They won the division and also crushed y'all.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:04 pm to Korin
First of many wins for Gus at JHS
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:10 pm to parkjas2001
It's too bad y'all lost to Georgia, that would've been an epic SECCG.
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