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re: Coaching tiers of the SEC. Discuss.

Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:48 am to
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:48 am to
FSU wasn't exactly the same caliber as it was when Spurrier was at UF.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:48 am to
Except they were top 10 and heavily favored in 04 and 12.
Posted by REBEL5 AC
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:51 am to
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Tier 2: Malzahn, Freeze
Tier 3: Miles, Mullen, Fat arse Bert
Tier 4: Pinkel, Richt, Sumlin


obvious troll is a little TOO obvious.



What do you mean? Malzahn took a 3 win team to the National Championship. Freeze took a 2-win, 51 scholarship player, talentless team to a bowl game and then did it again the following year, while beating our main rival, LSU.

Pinkel is a product of a terrible east. Hence, most east coaches are in the bottom tiers. Richt just isn't a good coach. Good guy, but not a good coach. Sumlin is wait and see with no Manziel.

Miles just makes too many dumbass decisions to be a top tier coach. Product of being the only major school in LA(one of the best recruiting states).

If Mullen starts winning the big SEC games, he will jump to tier 2. fricking great coach, just can't recruit. Bert has been killing the recruiting trail. Recruiting in the trenches very well.

Easy to defend those selections. I guess you are just used to mediocre coaching. I wouldn't trade Freeze for Richt any day of the week.
Posted by gatordmb89
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:51 am to
Tiers are pretty easy to understand

National Championships (trump card)

Coach with National Championship, numerous SEC titles

Coach with National Championship, not quite as many SEC titles

Coaches with an SEC title, one with a NC appearance though.

Division title

Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:52 am to
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Easy to defend those selections. I guess you are just used to mediocre coaching. I wouldn't trade Freeze for Richt any day of the week
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obvious troll is a little TOO obvious.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:53 am to
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Except they were top 10 and heavily favored in 04 and 12.


and? I don't care what teh point spreads were...those 1990s FSU teams would rail both 04 and 12 FSU.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:53 am to
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Freeze took a 2-win, 51 scholarship player, talentless team to a bowl game and then did it again the following year, while beating our main rival, LSU.
How did you guys only have 51 scholarship players?
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:54 am to
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What do you mean?


Well, freeze in tier 2, mullen and bielema in tier 3, and richt in 4 pretty much just shouts at the top of your lungs that you aren't being serious.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:55 am to
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Tiers are pretty easy to understand

National Championships (trump card)

Coach with National Championship, numerous SEC titles

Coach with National Championship, not quite as many SEC titles

Coaches with an SEC title, one with a NC appearance though.

Division title

What about using BCS bowl wins instead of national titles?
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:03 am to
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gatordmb89


It's not that black and white. What if Chizik were still here, would he automatically be in tier 1 because he has a national title and an SEC title? Of course not.

What about someone like James Franklin who is obviously never going to win the SEC or go to a BCS bowl..is he automatically in tier 5 or 6 just because of that?

Posted by joeyb147
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:04 am to
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If Mullen starts winning the big SEC games, he will jump to tier 2. fricking great coach, just can't recruit.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 11:06 am
Posted by swinetime
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:06 am to
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At South Carolina, yes.
Looking back on it though, he underachieved with us.
are you kidding. Florida football was nothing before spurrier coached there
Posted by piggidyphish
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:08 am to
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If you want to start handing out credit left and right to people who weren't even the head coach


Eh narratives change and no one is accusing you of doing this, but it was a pretty common 'dig' around here that 2010 was gus' team and that chiz was a figure head. It was used to mock chiz, but then someone says something simlar and it's to be taken away from gus. I guess you guys can ahve it both ways.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:09 am to
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Answer me this: Could Miles have done at South Carolina what Spurrier has done at South Carolina


One division title and zero BCS games? Yes, Miles could do that.
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:15 am to
a topic as fresh as this strawberry!

Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:18 am to
thats gross.
Posted by PortCityTiger82
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:19 am to
Yeah, I didn't get that either. I'm pretty sure Miles could have similar success at South Carolina.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:21 am to
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Yeah, I didn't get that either. I'm pretty sure Miles could have similar success at South Carolina.

Eh, no. Miles is a great coach but Spurrier is on another level.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:27 am to
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Eh, no. Miles is a great coach but Spurrier is on another level.


No he isn't. I swear, the love for Spurrier on this board is really weird. He's been at Carolina for 9 years, in that time he has won the East once and that team was 8-4. It was also the first time that Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee all had bad teams in the same year.

A big indictment of Bielema was his record against the good teams in the Big 10, yet Spurrier has a terrible record against the good teams in the SEC and people treat him like a football god.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:36 am to
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No he isn't. I swear, the love for Spurrier on this board is really weird. He's been at Carolina for 9 years, in that time he has won the East once and that team was 8-4. It was also the first time that Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee all had bad teams in the same year.

And I swear, some of you folks just started watching football and don't know squat about the history of other schools. UF was nothing before Spurrier got there. USCe was worse than nothing. Spurrier has turned UF into a national power and USCe into a contender.
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