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Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:21 pm to volfan30
Grant has to be fired. Top 10 in the nation salary. Bottom 200 performance.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 11:28 pm to Monticello
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Grant has to be fired. Top 10 in the nation salary. Bottom 200 performance.
I think you're being a bit generous. There are 351 division 1 basketball schools.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:08 am to Crimson Legend
Grant will be sitting next to Pel on Donovan's bench soon just like the old days
Posted on 2/12/14 at 6:32 am to RazorHawg
We don't have room for another coach right now so...no, he won't unless someone takes a head coaching gig.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 6:49 am to roadGator
Grant should stay. He made a mistake by making his schedule too tough at the beginning of the season. He has lost key players, but IMO he is a good coach, doing it the right way. If Alabama fires him, watch him be successful somewhere else. Plus he will have a good team for next year, even though he loses Trevor.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:11 am to austingator
would you want him as your HC if Billy D moves on?
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:16 am to volfan30
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Auburn playing much better recently. A few more wins likely buys him another year.
You shut your whore mouth.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:53 am to volfan30
Where is Mark Fox on this list? 
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:57 am to bona fide
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Grant will be back
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:58 am to volfan30
They missed one
Posted on 2/12/14 at 8:28 am to UGA Girlie
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Where is Mark Fox on this list?
THIS
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:02 am to mrbroker
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would you want him as your HC if Billy D moves on?
You think this is a good question? That is like asking if you would want Muschamp if Saban moves on.
And I think WM will turn it around this year.
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:10 am to austingator
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Grant should stay. He made a mistake by making his schedule too tough at the beginning of the season. He has lost key players, but IMO he is a good coach, doing it the right way.
His troubles this season have 0 to do with the schedule and everything to do with what has been a feature of pretty much every team he's had at Alabama.
They play to the level of their competition and fail to close.
Losing to Duke, UCLA, and Oklahoma by 10 or less on the road Wichita State by 5 at home weren't just understandable, they where actually encouraging but look at the rest.
Road loss at Drexel - current RPI 114.
Road loss at South Florida - current RPI 147.
Home loss to Xavier - current RPI 48.
It got worse when conference play started.
Beaten handily at Georgia
Blown out at Missouri
Blown out at Auburn
Blown out at home by Tennessee
Lost at Arkansas by 8 after leading at the half
Lost both home and away to Florida by less than 10.
Outside of an inexplicable win against Vandy, they've beaten Mississippi State (RPI - 166), blew a 19 point lead at home to LSU but held on to win by 2, and caught Ole Miss on a night when Hendo was sober but still had to hit a buzzer beater to win.
They're 0-10 on the road, but it isn't even that hard to find the root of their current failure. According to ESPN last night, their SOS is 2 nationally. If they simply beat every team they've played that has a current RPI over 100, they'd be 14-10 and listed as a bubble team at worst.
Alabama and Grant's problem isn't scheduling and losing close games against good teams. Their problem is losing games against very bad teams.
As far as losing key players, since Grant's been at Alabama:
Kendall Durant - transferred
Jason Carter - transferred
Charles Hankerson - transferred
Ben Eblen - left team with eligibility remaining
Tony Mitchell - dismissed from team
Moussa Gueye - transferred
Trevor Lacey - transferred
Devonta Pollard - arrested/dismissed from team
That's 8 premature departures in 4 years. All were scholarship players. All but Durant and Carter where at least part time starters, all but Carter saw significant playing time, and Mitchell and Lacey were stars.
There have also been suspensions of contributors like Andrew Steele, JaMichael Greene, and even Releford. Everyone's going to have early departures, but Alabama sees Kentucky level attrition without the Kentucky level talent. These kids aren't going pro, they're just going.
That says that Grant's doing a very poor job of evaluating character and work ethic or something's happening to drive the kids away once they arrive and either way the responsibility lies completely on Grant's shoulders.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:17 am to volfan30
surprised Mark Fox is not in the hot seat
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:23 am to Dawgnational
Jacobs backed himself in a corner last year when making comments about TB, he will have to let him go at the end of the season.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:33 am to JustGetItRight
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All but Durant and Carter where at least part time starters, all but Carter saw significant playing time,
Eblin averaged 7 mins a game and 1ppg his last season with Bama. Two starts in three years. Hankerson averaged 11mins/game and 3ppg, one start in two years at Bama.
Pollard started three games, none of the last 23 games at Bama.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 10:05 am to bona fide
I actually hope Bama fires Grant as I begrudgingly root for them. Still think he deserves another year. He has done really shitty this year, but that's not surprising when you have the 3rd hardest SOS and lose two of your best players in the off season.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 10:50 am to bona fide
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Eblin averaged 7 mins a game and 1ppg his last season with Bama. Two starts in three years. Hankerson averaged 11mins/game and 3ppg, one start in two years at Bama.
Pollard started three games, none of the last 23 games at Bama.
Eblin gave Releford a break and was an excellent defender.
Pollard was a 5* recruit who averaged 18 minutes and 4 points a game in his one and only season at Bama.
Both were solid contributors that added depth and Pollard had a very high ceiling (although you really can't lay his situation at Grant's feet).
Hankerson is, to me the most interesting.
He played two years at Alabama. During that time, he shot 33.7% from the floor (58-172) and 28.9% (24-83) from 3 point range in as you said, 11 minutes a game.
This year at Wyoming he's averaging 5 ppg shooting 45% from the floor (36-80) and 37.9% from 3 point range (11-29) in 18 minutes.
The only offensive stat that hasn't gone up tremendously is free throw percentage. He shot 64% at Bama and is shooting 66% this season.
Before anyone says 'but Wyoming', their current RPI is 87, SOS is 90, and they just beat #5 San Diego State with Hank scoring 9 points in 18 minutes.
He's gotten demonstrably better since he left - so either Grant let a guy go that was already a contributor and only going to get better or the second he got out from under Grant he started to show what kind of player he was the entire time.
Either way, it doesn't look good for Grant.
I thought Grant was a home run hire. I really like and respect the guy and I hope he has fantastic success wherever he lands but for whatever reason he just isn't working at Bama and it is time for a change.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:04 am to JustGetItRight
I agree with most of your comments on Grant, but the Hankerson thing is a bit odd.
Hankerson as a sophomore averaged 3.6 points a game on 36% shooting from the field, 32.7% from 3, and 70% from the line.
He got a whole year off to work on his game and is now averaging:
5 points a game on 45% shooting from the field, 37.9% from 3, and 66% from the line.
He's basically had a year and a half to work on his game. It's improvement - it's not holy shite what happened to Charles Hankerson improvement.
I thought he was coming on towards the end of his sophomore year during the NIT so I was surprised and disappointed to see him go. If he was averaging those numbers for us this year I would kind of think he really hadn't improved as much as I thought he was going to.
A general criticism that Grant hasn't developed players that well (see Rodney Cooper and Levi Randolph) is totally fair though.
Hankerson as a sophomore averaged 3.6 points a game on 36% shooting from the field, 32.7% from 3, and 70% from the line.
He got a whole year off to work on his game and is now averaging:
5 points a game on 45% shooting from the field, 37.9% from 3, and 66% from the line.
He's basically had a year and a half to work on his game. It's improvement - it's not holy shite what happened to Charles Hankerson improvement.
I thought he was coming on towards the end of his sophomore year during the NIT so I was surprised and disappointed to see him go. If he was averaging those numbers for us this year I would kind of think he really hadn't improved as much as I thought he was going to.
A general criticism that Grant hasn't developed players that well (see Rodney Cooper and Levi Randolph) is totally fair though.
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