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re: Chavis saw the writing on the wall

Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:50 am to
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:50 am to
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CBandits82


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He would have stayed had Alleva removed the Mile's Clause from the contract.



So, are you saying his contract with AtM somehow makes his job safe if Summon is fired? Especially if the defense sucks?

What new coach would come in knowing he had to retain chief and a suck ads defense.

LSU neither, frick Chief.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:52 am to
The stats on Chavis at A&M, LSU, and Tennessee are about as consistently impressive as any D Coordinator you will find, especially so because he has now translated it to his 3rd program.

A&M doesn't have a great D yet but it is hugely improved, especially in regards to making key stops. Shutting out Vandy is not a huge accomplishment per se but it was still our first shutout in 11 years and it was against a team that runs the ball well, which was considered our weakness. In recent years we couldn't stop people on 3rd down and that has changed under Chavis. Very excited to see what he can do in the next couple of years. Is he a schematic genius? Probably not, but defense isn't all about scheme it's about execution. Give me a group of firebreathers that know their assignments over a coach that can draw up incredible X's and O's. In the NFL you need the X's and O's guy, in college you need the former.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:56 am to
Yes, it was really awful defense before. Chavis has improved it. We still aren't great yet.

I feel like we covered this before, that there should be more margin for error on defense with A&M's wide open/ quick strike offense as compared to LSU's ball control/ conservative offense.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:00 am to
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So, are you saying his contract with AtM somehow makes his job safe if Summon is fired? Especially if the defense sucks?

What new coach would come in knowing he had to retain chief and a suck ads defense.

LSU neither, frick Chief.


its was about contractual security, not job security. Most assistants in the SEC contracts dont nullify with the head coach retention, they are usually just shorter durations.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:21 am to
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He is a good coach about basic technique and also with discipline. This just shows how bad your D was and really still is. That's what I'm talking about. If you think you have a great D, you're a homer. Is it improved, yes. I agree, he's improved it. Yes, he's a good coach. No, he's not a great D mind.


Never in my life have a witnessed a person contradict themselves so many times in so short a space.

Chavis turned a completely awful, bottom of the barrel defense (number 100-something) into a top 50 defense in ONE year without ANY SEC-caliber linebackers.

No one is saying we have a great defense. We are saying that Chavis took one of the very worst defenses in America and made it respectable immediately without an infusion of talent.

He's very clearly a great defensive mind - how many other coaches have had the run of defensive success he has had against the level of competition he has faced and then been able to turn around a god-awful defense like A&M's in just a year? 5 other guys, maybe? So out of all the Jr. High, High School, JUCO, D-3, FCS, & FBS defensive coaches in the United States of America, he's in the top 5-6, but he's not a great mind for it?

We're not saying he has a mind on the level of Steven Hawking. We're saying he is brilliant at coaching 18-22 year olds to defend against offensive plays in the game of college football. That's undisputed. The statistics bear it out. I couldn't care less if there are other coaches with more complex systems. Those systems don't work as well. Maybe his brilliance IS coaching fundamentals, technique, drilling the right things in practice and communicating to young men what they are supposed to do when they see X and what they are supposed to do when they see Y so that they can execute without mistakes or hesitation. Too many other coaches are too football-dumb to realize that's what really matters.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 10:33 am
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:23 am to
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Then you bring in coaches like coach O and Steele then you know desperation has set in.


Everyone except the LSU fan base realized this. Every time I thought about Steele in charge of that kind of talent I just shook my head. Couple Steele's incompetence with Coach O's intelligence and you have the formula for a season like... 2015 - it will be worse in 2016.

Oddly enough,, LSU fans seem to think Steele and especially O are the be all end all.

They can recruit - but they cant teach nor game plan. There will be moments of brilliance but long droughts of incompetence. It really has been a sad time for LSU.
Posted by aggiegreg93
Austin, Tx
Member since Jul 2012
1013 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:25 am to
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It will buy him a couple of years, but he's just as much to blame. Again, I've known him as far back as Alabama A&M. He is not a genius by any stretch of the imagination. I've said that all along and now even (Texas A&M people are starting to realize what I've known for many years.
I can tell you that there is not one single Aggie that agrees with you.
Posted by Pacito
Member since Jan 2013
1222 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:26 am to
When A&M has another mediocre year next year, he will get to experience the same thing.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17379 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:50 am to
Now do scoring defense. Then, add how A&M and LSU looked the prior year on defense. Finally, remind me again how Chavis's scheme requires superior talent on defense, which y'all have at LSU, but we lack at A&M.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24389 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:52 am to
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Now do scoring defense. Then, add how A&M and LSU looked the prior year on defense. Finally, remind me again how Chavis's scheme requires superior talent on defense, which y'all have at LSU, but we lack at A&M.


Then we'll show how A&M has a better pass D and LSU has a better run D. In the end it all goes under the Total Defense category.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17379 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:52 am to
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When A&M has another mediocre year next year, he will get to experience the same


Next year will be the best defense we've had at A&M in decades. If we can get our OC situation fixed, we'll finish no worse than 2nd in the West.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37519 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:54 am to
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totaldefense: LSU #35 Texas A&M #49


Fact remains your defense allows more points.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24389 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:55 am to
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Next year will be the best defense we've had at A&M in decades. If we can get our OC situation fixed, we'll finish no worse than 2nd in the West.


Oh for Christ's sake Aggy. Y'all told us last year if you got a defense in the top 50 you'd easily win the West and yet here we are.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24389 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:57 am to
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Fact remains your defense allows more points.


Fact remains your defense is still ranked below LSU's.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55285 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:57 am to
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Oh for Christ's sake Aggy. Y'all told us last year if you got a defense in the top 50 you'd easily win the West and yet here we are.


We may have said that

But


We didn't expect Chavis to destroy our offense
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37519 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:57 am to
Not in scoring defense which is what matters.

Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37519 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:59 am to
Scoring Defense:

Texas A&M: 31

lsu: 52
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24389 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:00 am to
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Not in scoring defense which is what matters.



It matters so much that both schools have identical records.

(Here's where you say we don't have 8 wins because of the McNeese game and round and round we go.)
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37519 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:02 am to
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It matters so much that both schools have identical records.


1. You have a worse record and less wins than A&M.

2. Your defense allows more points

3. frick LSU
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 11:03 am
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24389 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 11:05 am to
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1. You have a worse record and less wins than A&M.

2. Your defense allows more points

3. frick LSU



There you go little brother. You're going to take the beatdown by our shitty team especially hard.
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