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re: Can Saban go 10-2 at Bama in 2008?
Posted on 6/22/08 at 11:49 am to calihaze
Posted on 6/22/08 at 11:49 am to calihaze
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The whole country is going to be watching. Let's see if Saban can outcoach Tommy B. with a whole off-season to prepare for Clemson.
Doubtful. Saban has rarely been able to outcoach anyone. The talent should be pretty even and the game is at a nuetral site. Should be interesting and a good way to start the season.
Posted on 6/22/08 at 6:27 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:See Tuberville, Tommy (12/1/01).
Saban has rarely been able to outcoach anyone.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 4:16 pm to xiv
quote:I guess I was right.
Shula was lucky to go 10-2, and 7-6 the next year was about right.
Saban was unlucky to go 7-6, and 10-2 will sound about right for him soon.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 4:18 pm to Cornholio
quote:How does that arse taste, Cornholio?
Not out of the question? Are you serious? With the gumps schedule, there is no way they could go 10-2. If they do, I would stand in line to kiss Saban's arse. Not gonna happen.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 4:19 pm to xiv
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How does that arse taste, Cornholio?
Posted on 12/17/08 at 4:29 pm to xiv
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xiv
Thanks for rehashing this thread. I just reread the whole thing and there are some great predictions in there... Also, props to you for the 10-2 prediction right out of the gate, that was 2 games better than I expected myself.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 4:41 pm to Cornholio
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Cornholio
Can Saban go 10-2 at Bama in 2008?
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but I think 10-2 might be a stretch for the 2008 season but its definitely not out of the question.
Not out of the question? Are you serious? With the gumps schedule, there is no way they could go 10-2. If they do, I would stand in line to kiss Saban's arse. Not gonna happen.
I found this to be a good read.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 4:55 pm to xiv
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How does that arse taste, Cornholio?
That's great!
Posted on 12/17/08 at 4:56 pm to BT4LSU
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BT4LSU
Can Saban go 10-2 at Bama in 2008?
Nuts chimes in on this ridiculous topic.....
<<Saban was unlucky to go 7-6,
Disagree.
He was handed the Arkie game on a horrendous call by the officials and injuries to McFadden and Jones on Arkie's crucial last drive to try to run out the clock with a 4-point lead. He barely escaped against Houston, Ole Miss and Colorado, too. He was, frankly, just as lucky not to lose at least two of those games as he was unlucky to lose any game all year.
His losses were all pretty close, but in most of them, his team was outplayed and only managed to stay close because of large inequities in penalties and/or turnovers, especially the LSU game. About the only ones you could validly argue he was unlucky to lose were Mississippi State and ULM.
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And then BT drops them with the truth.
To further expand on this response, Bama completely tanked after the LSU game, not because they gave up, but because they were exposed.
And while he was unlucky to lose to MSU and ULM, he had no business beating Arkansas. Saban can be counted on losing a game he has no business losing at least once a year.
Furthermore, the Indy Bowl proved to us Tiger fans yet again that Saban, even when he has more talent, simply plays not to lose.
Bama will sell out to win either the Clemson or the UGA game. When he gets smacked in Atlanta and UGA pounds them in Athens, don't be surprised if Bama is sitting with 3 losses on their record before the end of September. Even with the easy schedule, 6-6 or 7-5 looks about the best Bama can do this year. If Saban could pull a 8-4 I'd be shocked.
While Saban has lost 3 games or more 14 out of 15 years as a head coach, everyone in the bubbagump state wants to state if he could win a NC at LSU, he'll win one at Bama.
Just remember what fell our way when LSU went 13-1:
A really weak non SEC slate (thanks to Arizona being down)
A Bama team suffering on probation;
A 7-5 Auburn team in chaos at the end of the year
A Zook coached UF team (who still beat us)
A unravelling USC squad;
A down year for MSU, and Arkansas.
Hell even Ole Miss was better than the above.
His 2004 team was exposed early and often and was ripped to shreads by Richt the second time around.
That wonderful offense, headed by the wild imagination of Jimbo and Nick, stunk against Auburn, UGA and Iowa.
Hell the defense collapsed as well especially against an Iowa team Les Miles probably would have destroyed.
Nothing has changed- with Bama's talent and Saban's coaching methodology-so why think Saban will improve Bama's bottom line?
Saban is an adequate game day coach. Many in the SEC are simply better in other categories. For example. many )whom I believe) at the LSU Operations Center say that Les Miles is a better planner than Saban. And I agree with them. I also believe Meyer and Tubby make better adjustments. And Petrino may be better as well offensively with similar talent. I personally thnk Arkansas will beat Bama because Petrino will out-coach Saban.
And recruiting? Make a big deal for all its worth about that 2008 recruiting class. LSU, UGA and UF all have 100 plus players better than that class, academically qualified, and with experience, and Meyer, Miles and Richt simply have too much available talent for that to change. Miles may have the greatest class in LSU/SEC history this year. Meyer's three classes (85 players) AVERAGE
better than Saban's best class.
Four honest to God recruiting classes like 2008 are needed by Bama to even be considered a contender in the SEC.
So can Saban go 10-2? With UGA, LSU, UT, Auburn, Clemson on the schedule?
You're dreaming.
Expect Saban to bolt to Penn State soon enough
Bump for a giggle
Posted on 12/17/08 at 4:58 pm to xiv
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xiv
Can Saban go 10-2 at Bama in 2008?
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Could happen. The thing is for all the adoration the gumps lay on Saban, if he loses 2-3 games AND the AU game get ready. I can about GUARANTEE he will be on a hot seat and know that he must beat AU in '09. That will not be easy for him. Bottom line is the AU game this year is likely to be VERY important for Saban.
If he lives up to Alabama's expectations, won't they pony up enough to keep him around, therefore preventing a move to State College?
And if he falls short of Alabama's hopes and dreams, won't he be a considerably less sexy candidate for JoePa's replacement?
I'd be surprised to see him go to Penn State. I'd almost expect him to go to a second-tier Big Ten school before Penn State.
Comic GOLD
Thank you
Posted on 12/17/08 at 5:07 pm to LuckyBS
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LuckyBS
Ho. Lee. Crap.
That is some fine prognostication there, BT4LSU...tell me, did you work on that Iraq/WMD report by any chance?
Posted on 12/17/08 at 5:25 pm to DvlsAdvocat
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That is some fine prognostication there, BT4LSU...tell me, did you work on that Iraq/WMD report by any chance?
Posted on 12/17/08 at 5:39 pm to BamaInHsv
Everyone on this thread was right.... Saban didn't go 10-2.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 9:21 pm to xiv
My favorite come from Tiger n Miami....
I think Saban is overrated as a coach and cannot win without supperior talent.
First off, coaching gets a lot easier when you have superior talent. Last I checked that's part of college coaching, recruiting superior talent.
I think Saban is overrated as a coach and cannot win without supperior talent.
First off, coaching gets a lot easier when you have superior talent. Last I checked that's part of college coaching, recruiting superior talent.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 7:27 am to deaux68
This needs at least one more "bump."
Posted on 12/18/08 at 8:10 am to BamaJD88
There's more than one thread like this hanging around...
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