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re: Cam Newton vs Johnny Football

Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:38 pm to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:38 pm to
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Our defense was #1 in rushing defense in the SEC. You A&M fans don't realize that AU's defense that year wasn't that bad


And your passing defense was 108th in the country. Yes, that's bad.

Neither defense would have much hope of stopping the opposing QB.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:39 pm to
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OK, are you sure you want me to?

14-0 in 2010 > 11-2 in 2012...



That's a record, not a statistic. And nobody denied Auburn's superior record.

Yes, A&M had an easier schedule than Auburn did. The stats reveal that A&M was more efficient and less mistake prone almost across the board.
Posted by AMM AU9893
Auburn, AL
Member since Feb 2011
13789 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:39 pm to
We didn't lose a game with a tougher schedule and one more game. A&M lost two. Auburn would win by double digits.

It doesn't matter though. Our season got us a national championship. A&M's got a cotton bowl win
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:40 pm to
Johnny Manziel is 6 feet straight up and runs probably a 4.5 or 4.6.




Cam Newton is 6 6 250 pounds and runs JUST as fast. Dude took a 7 win auburn team at best and made them national champions AND defeated one of the best offenses in the history of the game.
Posted by WhiskeyBent
Member since Jul 2007
1132 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:43 pm to
The question would not be about record. The question is by the bowl game who would win. I think A&M at the end of the year would have beat Auburn.

Early in the year Auburn would play close.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91644 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

I think A&M at the end of the year would have beat Auburn.
quote:

Early in the year Auburn would play close
Well, this is just straight up fricking arse-backwards.

Auburn was on fire at the end of the year, after starting off slow.
Posted by Nortizzle
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Member since Nov 2006
23170 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:44 pm to
bullshite.
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:44 pm to
You give Newton an actual decent to above average team and they defeat A&M by a wide margin.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22654 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

The question would not be about record. The question is by the bowl game who would win. I think A&M at the end of the year would have beat Auburn.

Early in the year Auburn would play close.




Posted by AMM AU9893
Auburn, AL
Member since Feb 2011
13789 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

The question would not be about record. The question is by the bowl game who would win. I think A&M at the end of the year would have beat Auburn.

This is just awful. Auburn was unbeatable at the end of the season. We won the damn SEC Championship by 40
Posted by WhiskeyBent
Member since Jul 2007
1132 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:51 pm to
what do you think the line would be if those teams played at the end of the year?

Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:52 pm to
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Why do Texas A&M fans really believe this game would be close, or that they might even pull out the win?


First of all Auburn played a ton of close games in 2010. You blew out five teams (not counting Arkansas as that game was back and forth for 56 minutes or so) of which two were mid-majors, one an FCS program and another was 4-8 Ole Miss. The only impressive blowout was USC part II. You beat MSU by 3, Clemson by 3, USC part I by 8, Kentucky by 3, LSU by 7, Bama by 1 and Oregon by 3. A&M was better than at least four of those teams you played within a single score. You won your 14 games by an average of 17 PPG.

Meanwhile, A&M blew out 8 teams in 2012 and won their 11 games by an average of 27.9 PPG. We had five games decided by a single score and four of them were against ranked teams.

It's very unlikely given the statistical trends that game wouldn't at least be close.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22654 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:52 pm to
Auburn by 10 on a neutral field. We would've been coming off of a 40 point beat down in the SEC Championship game.
Posted by Nortizzle
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Member since Nov 2006
23170 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:53 pm to
Don't even try to have a legit conversation with that poster.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22654 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:54 pm to
Yeah, I should know better. His Cam Newton theory was gold the other night.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:56 pm to
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Auburn would win by double digits.


You didn't beat anyone as good or better than A&M by more than 7 points all year. You needed OT to beat a 7 loss Clemson team at home and beat 7 loss Kentucky on a last second FG. It is extremely unlikely you would have blown us out, especially given how poor your pass defense was.
Posted by WhiskeyBent
Member since Jul 2007
1132 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:57 pm to
What was the score vs. Bama - I dont give a shite about blowing out a goat.

Lets change this up a little.

Bama fans - could your team this year have beaten Cam's team? LSU fans - could your team this year have beaten Cams team? Georgia fans could your team this year have beaten Cams team?

What margin do you think?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

Johnny Manziel is 6 feet straight up and runs probably a 4.5 or 4.6.


Manziel will be a 4.45-4.49 guy at the combine. He's faster than Newton was. Newton was a much more powerful runner, though.
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
Member since Jul 2013
30164 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

Auburn by 10 on a neutral field


I know Auburn played great as well but with the way A&M played at the end of the year I think it would be Auburn by 3
Posted by Gnar Cat21
Piña Coladaburg
Member since Sep 2009
16837 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 7:00 pm to
I skimmed the last page and a half, but not a single person has said A&M except their fans and the OP, who is obviously trolling


an undefeated SEC team vs a 2 loss SEC isn't even a question


and I really don't understand the JFF/Cam debate. one found a way to win no matter what, the other didn't


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