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Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:08 am to Irons Puppet
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No, you have his dad on tape saying it is going to take money to get Cam to go to MISS ST.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:15 am to Vecchio Cane
Let's hear Miss St version.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:17 am to Vecchio Cane
Everybody...everybody knows that Auburn paid for Cam Newton. Even the Auburn fans know it. Some of them just won't admit it.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:25 am to Pettifogger
quote:Not that it matters in the least, but I believe exactly what you posted.
I think it's good work by AU that in a year of investigation the NCAA didn't find any other solid threads to pull on (including any more traditional booster benefits to Cam and others).
I don't think it's particularly any achievement by AU that nothing was found on the original Cam claims, as the far more likely scenario is that Auburn wasn't asked and didn't pay for Cam after his father got his hand slapped at MSU. I think there are two big disconnects in the Cam story, first being that Cam wasn't a 180k recruit at the time, and the second being that Auburn wasn't going to knowingly win a bidding war with another SEC school where the father of the recruit openly sought money from the other SEC school.
People ignore that Cecil and Cam were tainted goods at that point, Cecil didn't really have the leverage to pull off that approach after MSU.
Cam Newton coming out of Blinn wasn't worth $180,000 and Cecil screwed the pooch when he put Cam on the auction block.
The absolute best case scenario for the Newton's was for Cam to come to Auburn (close to his home), separate himself from the slave traders Cecil had brokered with, and ride around on a scooter under the 24/7 protection and watchful eye of Tim Jackson.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:28 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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Everybody...everybody knows that Auburn paid for Cam Newton. Even the Auburn fans know it. Some of them just won't admit it.
What proof ? I am tired of hearing Transitive Relation theory by butthurt MSU and Bama fans.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:30 am to Irons Puppet
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Let's hear Miss St version.
I gave my version on page 5. Thx
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:34 am to GreyReb
Yes! The former staff and state of the NCAA was not effective and lost its way.
Miami and Auburn opened the box, and the NCAA cleaned house and restructured.
It's not fair they got off. But the box has to be closed now.
Miami and Auburn opened the box, and the NCAA cleaned house and restructured.
It's not fair they got off. But the box has to be closed now.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:36 am to Jjdoc
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Miami and Auburn opened the box, and the NCAA cleaned house and restructured. It's not fair they got off. But the box has to be closed now.
Miami got off because of NCAA Discovery Tactics and a threat of a lawsuit. Auburn "got off" because they could not find anything. Big difference.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:39 am to RT1941
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The absolute best case scenario for the Newton's was for Cam to come to Auburn (close to his home), separate himself from the slave traders Cecil had brokered with, and ride around on a scooter under the 24/7 protection and watchful eye of Tim Jackson.
Yep. After everything settled down I've had some candid convos with some compliance folks (attorneys at legal functions and the like) who take the position we're taking.
AU learned relatively early of the MSU situation, they recognized that it was mutually beneficial at that point for AU to get a target and for Cam to find a major program to play in, they thought it was worth the gamble if AU was open and diligent about ensuring compliance, and they would batten down the hatches (not only with Cam but throughout the program) and wait for what was probably going to be an inevitable storm.
If Cam hadn't become a huge story, it may have been overkill. In the end it obviously wasn't, and it paid off huge. Had that not been the approach, I think it's more likely the NCAA would have found something, Cam or otherwise.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:45 am to Pettifogger
quote:Hell, Auburn went a step further and pulled Rich McGlynn straight out of the office of Enforcement Services arm of the NCAA and hired him as AU Director of Compliance.
Yep. After everything settled down I've had some candid convos with some compliance folks (attorneys at legal functions and the like) who take the position we're taking.
AU learned relatively early of the MSU situation, they recognized that it was mutually beneficial at that point for AU to get a target and for Cam to find a major program to play in, they thought it was worth the gamble if AU was open and diligent about ensuring compliance, and they would batten down the hatches (not only with Cam but throughout the program) and wait for what was probably going to be an inevitable storm.
If Cam hadn't become a huge story, it may have been overkill. In the end it obviously wasn't, and it paid off huge. Had that not been the approach, I think it's more likely the NCAA would have found something, Cam or otherwise.
Rich is a hard arse on compliance, just ask Bruce; smart move by AU though.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:45 am to lsufan31
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They never investigated, dumbass.
Oh, so both results were the same.
I guess this went way over the scope of your intellect....dumbass
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:46 am to lsufan31
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WTF does that have to do with the assertion that the NCAA investigated LF?
Maybe you should follow the conversations within the thread a little closer.
probably should follow along as well...
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:47 am to RT1941
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Rich is a hard arse on compliance, just ask Bruce; smart move by AU though.
Ive spoken with Rich before, he is well aware of Tigerdropppings/SECrant
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:47 am to Irons Puppet
To me it's not worth arguing over. The fact is that NCAA after those 2 events cleaned house and restructured. Sincerely that time, they have been on a mission.
They slammed SMU again, they issued one of the largest show causes to a coach etc etc....
They are not in a playing mood anymore and the aim to close the perception about them being toothless.
They slammed SMU again, they issued one of the largest show causes to a coach etc etc....
They are not in a playing mood anymore and the aim to close the perception about them being toothless.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:47 am to Irons Puppet
To me it's not worth arguing over. The fact is that NCAA after those 2 events cleaned house and restructured. Sincerely that time, they have been on a mission.
They slammed SMU again, they issued one of the largest show causes to a coach etc etc....
They are not in a playing mood anymore and the aim to close the perception about them being toothless.
They slammed SMU again, they issued one of the largest show causes to a coach etc etc....
They are not in a playing mood anymore and the aim to close the perception about them being toothless.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:48 am to Irons Puppet
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Let's hear Miss St version.
I have always wondered about that. AFTER money was talked about with Miss. St. boosters, and supposedly one coach, St. kept recruiting Cam for another 5 weeks. That part of the story always get glossed over.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:48 am to GreyReb
The difference between ole miss and auburn, is that auburn cleaned up the paper trail.
You guys didn't, so you got caught. Now the NCAA dick is about to penetrate that booty.
All schools cheat, Alabama, auburn, LSU, ole miss, Georgia, everyone, but they don't get caught doing it.
Maybe when ole miss fires freeze, y'all will get a coach that can do things the right way.
You guys didn't, so you got caught. Now the NCAA dick is about to penetrate that booty.
All schools cheat, Alabama, auburn, LSU, ole miss, Georgia, everyone, but they don't get caught doing it.
Maybe when ole miss fires freeze, y'all will get a coach that can do things the right way.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:48 am to GreyReb
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What did you expect to happen???
A no count, piddlin program begins to secure 4/5 stars like nobody's business and you expect otherwise!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What did you expect to happen???
A no count, piddlin program begins to secure 4/5 stars like nobody's business and you expect otherwise!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:49 am to NYCAuburn
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Ive spoken with Rich before, he is well aware of Tigerdropppings/SECrant
Rich is very willing to discuss the nuances of the Newton (and Pearl, now) situation at this point. He knows it's a huge resume item for him.
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