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Posted on 7/27/13 at 4:50 pm to Choctaw
GayTigerNinja is some serious chit. Cyde is gonna find out the hard way.
Posted on 7/27/13 at 4:51 pm to GenesChin
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Even Mike Bobo is going to feel sorry for him
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Posted on 7/27/13 at 4:52 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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GayTigerNinja is some serious chit
Don't look now, but he's obviously an LSU fan, with the tiger motif. I think he was even trying for gold hair.
Posted on 7/27/13 at 4:54 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Remind me, who followed up Saban's (insert overwrought adjective for "terrible" here) 15-17 record at Miami with a 1-15 campaign?
That Miami FO definitely left Cam with some good QBs to work with
Posted on 7/27/13 at 4:55 pm to AMM AU9893
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And Flacco got paid because of his performance in the playoffs.
Right. The Ravens gave him 100 million dollars based on a few games and ignored the previous five seasons where he averaged 3,525 yards and 20 touchdowns. Gosh I wonder who was the OC and QB coach for the majority of those years. Nah, Cameron had little to do with Flacco's development.
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Cameron was canned before that. Credit goes to his current OC
You mean Jim Caldwell? The guy that was fired by the Colts before 2012. Hmmmm.
Hey remember when the Buccs fired Tony Dungy? That guy never did anything else with his career did he.
Posted on 7/27/13 at 4:59 pm to Lsuhoohoo
As an aside, whatever happened to that coach that the Cleveland Browns fired in 1995? What was his name....Bob Bellychuck?
Posted on 7/27/13 at 5:01 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Anyhow, gotta split for now. Later, guys.
Posted on 7/27/13 at 5:03 pm to cyde
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Posted on 7/27/13 at 5:58 pm to Nguyening
I've taken a wait and see mentality in regards to our offense for the past 3 years. My most hated fan is an extreme LSU sunshine pumper
Posted on 7/29/13 at 2:04 am to molsusports
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 5:55 am to molsusports
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you tards can do what you like
Gee, thank you. I thought we had to get your permission to do what we wanted for awhile.
Umm...he developed Flacco? Did you not see the article that said one of the reasons he was let go by baltimore was because he had NOT been able to develop Flacco? And because of the inconsistency of Baltimore's offense? No. Of course you didn't see it.
As for Phillip Rivers...he's a mess. he should be a MUCH better quarterback. However, if you want to give Cameron credit for that, go ahead.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 6:08 am to Lsuhoohoo
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Right. The Ravens gave him 100 million dollars based on a few games and ignored the previous five seasons where he averaged 3,525 yards and 20 touchdowns. Gosh I wonder who was the OC and QB coach for the majority of those years. Nah, Cameron had little to do with Flacco's development.
I understand what you are saying..but did you realize that 17 quarterbacks threw for more than 3,500 yards in the NFL last year? (Flacco was one of them)
And 20 quarterbacks threw for 20 or more TD passes? Touting those stats as Flacco's average over the past 5 years is hardly a ringing endorsement.
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Hey remember when the Buccs fired Tony Dungy? That guy never did anything else with his career did he.
Surely you aren't comparing Cameron to Dungy? Should we mention the coaches who failed miserably after being fired? I mean...it works both ways. He might be a rousing success at LSU....or he might be a total failure. You don't know and neither do we. But to assume your offense will be much improved with a brand new coordinator and a brand new offense is a stretch.
Maybe he will turn their offense around. He should be better than what you had, and if he improves your offense at all....well, that's a good thing, right?
Posted on 7/29/13 at 6:21 am to DawgsLife
I have no problem with anyone saying they don't think Cam will work at LSU because the NFL and college are different games but the stuff talking down his QB development or results as an NFL coordinator strikes me as ignorant, beyond the pale stupid, or just trolling.
Rivers backslid badly the last 2-3 seasons but how in the world that can be laid at the feet of Cameron is beyond me (when Cam was gone and Rivers had been playing like a top five NFL QB in the seasons before that).
Whatever your contrarian columnist wrote about the Flacco and Cameron relationship is fine. He's an outlier opinion based on the majority of what people from Baltimore including Flacco and Harbaugh have said. Hell, even if you throw out Flacco's development as irrelevant (and you ignore that the Baltimore offense scored more points per game prior to Cam leaving the team) you should still acknowledge the success he had with San Diego with Brees and Rivers development. Before that in Indiana he developed Randel El into an outstanding college QB (seriously, go back and look at his seasons on a lousy Indiana team, he was incredibly productive). Before that he made Gus Frerotte into a pro bowl QB in D.C.
Maybe Cam doesn't work out at LSU because he can't make his offense simple enough for college players who are fresh from high school offenses and only have a limited amount of time to study the playbook and game film. But you have to be optimistic if you're a LSU fan and a little worried if you're a competitor
Rivers backslid badly the last 2-3 seasons but how in the world that can be laid at the feet of Cameron is beyond me (when Cam was gone and Rivers had been playing like a top five NFL QB in the seasons before that).
Whatever your contrarian columnist wrote about the Flacco and Cameron relationship is fine. He's an outlier opinion based on the majority of what people from Baltimore including Flacco and Harbaugh have said. Hell, even if you throw out Flacco's development as irrelevant (and you ignore that the Baltimore offense scored more points per game prior to Cam leaving the team) you should still acknowledge the success he had with San Diego with Brees and Rivers development. Before that in Indiana he developed Randel El into an outstanding college QB (seriously, go back and look at his seasons on a lousy Indiana team, he was incredibly productive). Before that he made Gus Frerotte into a pro bowl QB in D.C.
Maybe Cam doesn't work out at LSU because he can't make his offense simple enough for college players who are fresh from high school offenses and only have a limited amount of time to study the playbook and game film. But you have to be optimistic if you're a LSU fan and a little worried if you're a competitor
Posted on 7/29/13 at 8:07 am to molsusports
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talking down his QB development or results as an NFL coordinator strikes me as ignorant, beyond the pale stupid, or just trolling.
Hey...I gave you the stats on Flacco and how he stacked up against other NFL QBs. YOU decide how much Cameron developed him.
As for Rivers....if a player is fully developed, a truly great QB, then he rarely "backslides" to that degree. Rivers has always thrown a lot of Interceptions. And please, please, PLEASE don't try to compare Rivers to Favre. They don't belong in the same breath. Do you HONESTLY believe Rivers is an elite QB? The scouts thought he would be when he was drafted out of college.
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Whatever your contrarian columnist wrote about the Flacco and Cameron relationship is fine
Hey...the quote came from Baltimore Raven Insiders, not a columnist. You seriously want to go by what Harbaugh said publicly? When is the last time you have heard a head coach bad mouth a coordinator publicly after firing them?
Have you even LOOKED at Drew Brees statistics while he was with San Diego? He was an average QB AT BEST in SD. He didn't develop until he went to New Orleans. Look it up, then tell me Cameron developed Brees into the QB he is today.
I hope he works out for you guys, but you give him a WHOLE lot more credit for developing Drew Brees than he deserves, and if you are proud of his developing two other mediocre QBs, then have at it. Face it. He was hired at LSU because he was BFF with Miles.
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 8:26 am to molsusports
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Before that in Indiana he developed Randel El into an outstanding college QB (seriously, go back and look at his seasons on a lousy Indiana team, he was incredibly productive). Before that he made Gus Frerotte into a pro bowl QB in D.C.
He was the Head Coach at Indiana...and did you check out his record at Indiana?
As for Frerrotte....really? He is your idea of a great QB? Besides...Cameron was gone when Frerotte was chosen to the Pro Bowl. not only that, Frerotte's BEST year under Cameron was 1996 when he threw 12 TD and 11 INTS. VERY impressive. I hope he can do the same for Mettenberger.
Flacco averaged 20 TD a year under Cameron. Great development.
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But you have to be optimistic if you're a LSU fan and a little worried if you're a competitor
I gotta tell you, the more research I do on Cameron and his QB development, the less worried I am.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 8:34 am to DawgsLife
First off...Dawgslife.. get one, a life that is
Whatever Bama fan wrote this....atleast there is one of you out there who "gets" it and doesn't have their head stuck in the sand. Our O gonna be sick this year and I can't wait
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Being fired by the team that won the last Super Bowl after building their offense for the past 5 years is a strong recomendation, not a negative
Whatever Bama fan wrote this....atleast there is one of you out there who "gets" it and doesn't have their head stuck in the sand. Our O gonna be sick this year and I can't wait
Posted on 7/29/13 at 8:38 am to DawgsLife
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the more research I do on Cameron and his QB development, the less worried I am.
than i suggest you get checked out for a possible learning disability
Posted on 7/29/13 at 8:42 am to DawgsLife
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Have you even LOOKED at Drew Brees statistics while he was with San Diego? He was an average QB AT BEST in SD.
you're just wrong here
Brees had a decent first year as a starter in 2002, backslid in 2003 (so the Chargers drafted Rivers) and then an outstanding "junior" 2004 season in which he finished with a 104.9 QB rating (the third highest of his career to date). I'm not sure this needs to be pointed out but apparently you disagree so I'll say it. The only concern with Brees coming out of San Diego was his health. He was absolutely viewed as a franchise QB if he was healthy.
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I hope he works out for you guys, but you give him a WHOLE lot more credit for developing Drew Brees than he deserves, and if you are proud of his developing two other mediocre QBs, then have at it.
I think you sell Rivers and Flacco short while ignoring the role Cam had with not only Brees but also Randle at Indiana and Frerotte in DC. But hey you're entitled to your opinion (however stupidly wrong it is
). Like I said before Cam might very well fail to excel at LSU if he doesn't transition back to the college level but he's a very very good NFL OC and is about as good as it gets when it comes to developing QBs (certainly better than a fan of a college program has any right to expect at their program).Posted on 7/29/13 at 8:50 am to GenesChin
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Want to know the last NFL Coordinator who got fired and came to the SEC?
Brian Van Gorder at Auburn.
What caused Van Gorder to go from a damn good DC at GA to looking horrible st AU? He's a really good DC but he needed defensive talent at AU before his defense would look good.
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