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Breaking Dartmouth first D1 school to Vote to unionize.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:46 pm
For decades, Dartmouth has been proud to build productive relationships with the five unions that are currently part of our campus community. We always negotiate in good faith and have deep respect for our 1,500 union colleagues, including the members of SEIU Local 560. In this isolated circumstance, however, the students on the men's basketball team are not in any way employed by Dartmouth. For Ivy League students who are varsity athletes, academics are of primary importance, and athletic
pursuit is part of the educational experience. Classifying these students as employees simply because they play basketball is as unprecedented as it is inaccurate. We, therefore, do not believe
unionization is appropriate.
While everyone was blaiming Tennessee for “ruining” college sports, Dartmouth was jsut sitting in the back ground winning court cases that say they are paid employees and now will be able to form a union. Time to wake up folks, college athletics is headed in a new direciton.
pursuit is part of the educational experience. Classifying these students as employees simply because they play basketball is as unprecedented as it is inaccurate. We, therefore, do not believe
unionization is appropriate.
While everyone was blaiming Tennessee for “ruining” college sports, Dartmouth was jsut sitting in the back ground winning court cases that say they are paid employees and now will be able to form a union. Time to wake up folks, college athletics is headed in a new direciton.
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:48 pm to Hot_in_the_box
BREAKING: The Dartmouth men’s basketball team has become the first in NCAA Division I history to officially vote to unionize.
The historic vote is the next step in a case that could ultimately kill the NCAA’s amateurism model.
The historic vote is the next step in a case that could ultimately kill the NCAA’s amateurism model.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:59 pm to Hot_in_the_box
Super wealthy students "unionizing" at a super wealthy university
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:52 pm to Hot_in_the_box
Figures their hatred for America would spill into college sports.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:55 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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May be nothing. But, given recent court cases, it’s more likely this is coming soon to a campus near you.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 4:03 pm to BevoBucks
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likely this is coming soon to a campus near you
I don't believe it's hyperbole to say that the day athletes are considered employees, it will effectively end college sports as we know it.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 4:18 pm to paperwasp
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I don't believe it's hyperbole to say that the day athletes are considered employees, it will effectively end college sports as we know it.
Athletic departments need to prepare internally for that inevitable outcome. With the NCAA out of the picture, it’s just a matter of time before some lawyer convinces a major program’s football players to collectively tell their school they need a slice of the pie or see you in court.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 4:19 pm to BevoBucks
5-21 overall, 1-12 in conference. They are already performing at union levels!
Posted on 3/5/24 at 4:26 pm to MAROON
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5-21 overall, 1-12 in conference. They are already performing at union levels!
One of the best things I have read all day
Posted on 3/5/24 at 4:28 pm to Hot_in_the_box
Harvard and Yale to the ACC
Posted on 3/5/24 at 4:30 pm to MAROON
Good one. Wish I would have thought to say this.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 4:40 pm to paperwasp
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I don't believe it's hyperbole to say that the day athletes are considered employees,
What does a union employee athlete at Dartmouth ask for? A percentage of the zero profit they make? A salary from the revenue they don't generate? Health care that they already have for free?
All this is going to do is kill programs at a lot of places.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 3/5/24 at 5:01 pm to Evolved Simian
A team of students not on athletic scholarship votes to unionize. What exactly do they hope to receive?
Posted on 3/5/24 at 5:21 pm to Evolved Simian
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All this is going to do is kill programs at a lot of places
I'm afraid so.
There are over half-a-million NCAA athletes across all sports.
Imagine the resources it would take to provide and administer salaries and benefits for every single one.
As you point out, most smaller programs will be forced to shutter Title IX sports for example, because there simply isn't any net revenue available to share.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 5:27 pm to paperwasp
Man I don't know, I think I am done. College athletics has been a fun pastime of mine, but I don't support where it is headed.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 5:28 pm to Evolved Simian
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A salary from the revenue they don't generate?
BTW, I'm starting to see some counter arguments to this, and one appears to be "stop paying football coaches so much." (so there's more money to pay athletes)
Posted on 3/5/24 at 5:34 pm to bigDgator
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I don't support where it is headed
I mean it's going to be a pro league where there's essentially no affiliation to the school at all, other than working there. Just like the NFL.
Will they even be required to enroll in classes? Other employees of the university aren't.
What happens when they get hurt? Do they get state disability? Do they get a pension? Who's going to pay for all of that?
Posted on 3/5/24 at 5:35 pm to bigDgator
Yeah, It was fun, while it lasted. I’ve spent a lot of money last few years. Well worth it, I suppose. But growing tired of it
Posted on 3/5/24 at 5:40 pm to paperwasp
I don't like where CFB is going. On the bright side these college kids will learn sooner about paying taxes.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 5:42 pm to Hot_in_the_box
schools will start dropping sports like flies. You already don't make any money keeping women's field hockey in your department, and now the players can strike and demand x y or z, there's no point. smaller schools might do what St Francis U in Brooklyn did and just drop athletics altogether
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 5:43 pm
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