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re: Bottom line on Chavis

Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:51 am to
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:51 am to
Chavis run a simple system that is easy to grasp for players. He will stop the run with numbers and try to stop the pass with speed. He will run press man but sprinkle in zone. He likes showing pressure looks more than using them. He's seen it all and can gameplan really well. He blitzes when he trusts his players and the talent. He also handles air raid very well.

Adjustments were sometimes non existent inside of games. He consistently gives up late half and late game drives for scores. He has benefitted greatly from a huge TOP advantage due to a ball control offense. He sacrifices size for speed at each position. Not bad, not good, just is a principle he works under. He will use odd man fronts at times, including 30 and 50 fronts based on down and distance as well as available manpower in order to try and keep his line fresh.

Chief is a huge disciplinarian. He is extremely well respected. By his players, the defense as a whole, the team and by his staff. He's a rock in the lockerroom. We shall see what happens there on the field, but he's a really good coach and I wish him well outsider of when we play you guys.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 8:53 am
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:53 am to
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I think you are overlooking the impact of your AD being a complete retard on this situation.



who knows, maybe you are right. I think though that LSU knew what they were doing all along...otherwise...you just match the 400K....there are some weaknesses in Chavis that some coaches can exploit....and I think LSU feels it can get a top notch DC that can also recruit......time will tell I guess. I couldn't imagine LSU not getting someone of high quality given the talent they already have there on D.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24263 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:53 am to
According to your insiders on the radio in baton Rouge this wasnt money or miles but a product of your shitty AD who disrespected him.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
76444 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:53 am to
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Best defense in SEC. Not elite.
It was a shitty year for SEC defenses across the board
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:54 am to
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According to your insiders


LOL
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24263 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:54 am to
You jackasses say this about every OC you hire as well.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:56 am to
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I think though that LSU knew what they were doing all along...otherwise...you just match the 400K...


Maybe by then it was too late. Y'all gave the guy an initial first offer that was crap. Maybe that offended him so much he never really let LSU counter offer. Why else leave when you have such a talented roster?
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:58 am to
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Yeah, all we need is NOT SHITTY and we good to go.


One of the things that you guys don't grasp well is that it's difficult to field a good defensive unit when you run the style of offense that you guys run.....some of you get it...others think it has no impact....top absolutely has an impact...and then when you hurry up and get stopped 3 and out....your d gives out...but hey, we can't tell a&m anything right....you guys already know it all.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30592 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:59 am to
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LSU on the other hand better go find elite to go with that offense.
Now THAT hurt!
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 8:59 am to
Gfunk that is the most lucid and well said thing I have read since this went down bravo
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30592 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:02 am to
I can hear all those defensive recruits knocking on Saban's door right now!
Posted by OilfieldTrashAg
Austin, TX
Member since Aug 2011
1806 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:02 am to
Again, I think from the LSU perspective your point is valid; anyone who thinks LSU couldn't match the offer is foolish, Alleva just didn't want to.

My point is simple: careful what you wish for; when I was a student at TAMU we had dominant defense, thst was our pride. We thought it was a given: plug & play, next guy, always dominant. I'm Just hoping that ya'lls AD didn't take chief for granted like we did our defense in the 90s.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:02 am to
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Why else leave when you have such a talented roster?



because he wasn't wanted???

I realize what board I'm on, and you guys are looking to just make it look like A&M is the bomb, and whoever they want, they get.

That's certainly not the case. If you are objective on this thing, you see that something doesn't add up. At his age, you don't go do a shite show of a defense that you have to rebuild....UNLESS you are guaranteed retirement and it doesn't matter.....LSU wouldn't guarantee him....so, can't say I blame the chief....but to act like LSU gave him a crap offer. He was making about 300K when he came to LSU and LSU has rewarded him nicely through the years....as for your counter argument....LSU has stated they weren't budging....so, if it makes you sleep better, you absolutely stole him from LSU and there was nothing LSU could do.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:03 am to
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careful what you wish for


agreed


but it's to my point that I think LSU knew exactly what they are doing...and it may happen quickly.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 9:05 am
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10525 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:04 am to
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LSU on the other hand better go find elite to go with that offense.


I don't disagree, but last season ('13) LSU had one of its best offenses in history...but gave up 44, 38, 27 points to UGA, Bama, and Ole Miss. And in two of those games, our defense couldn't make a final-drive stop to win.

Just sayin
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:05 am to
I think we all understand the TOP impact on a defense. We didn't run HUNH this year, so apparently Sumlin is aware of it too. Again, NOT SHITTY will go a long way to making us a contender.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:07 am to
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You jackasses say this about every OC you hire as well.


no...we don't.

AT OC, you can expect to have Miles hands all over the offense.

Miles leaves the DC to do his job (unless of course they have a bad game, then the negatigers say Miles coached the D as well...lol).

It's a great gig for a DC...great talent and hands off by the HC.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:09 am to
Chavis was the best coach on the LSU staff over the last 6 years. He brought consistently good defenses, soild schemes, and player development - which is something we cannot do at QB. The negatives are the 3rd and Chavis and his inability to stop last drives. I count 7 losses over the past few years directly attributed to his inability to close out games. He is great against the spread, but sucks against the read option. He builds defenses from the inside out - so if u can main up at DT, MLB, and SS, you have a chance to be good. If not, you look like LSU this year.

Y'all got a good to great coach. Can't believe we let him go over a few peanuts. Our AD must be a total idiot.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:11 am to
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because he wasn't wanted???


When was he given any extension offer then? Why even give him a shitty offer if that is the case?

quote:

but to act like LSU gave him a crap offer.


Seems to be what he thought.

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you guys are looking to just make it look like A&M is the bomb, and whoever they want, they get.


And you guys are looking to minimize the perceived damage of losing one of the best coordinators in the SEC (by the numbers) to a division rival.

Heck, even if you are right and he is washed up as a coach, the damage we are about to do to y'all in recruiting was worth $400k a year to prevent.

At this point we need perceived and recruiting wins more than real wins, so I don't even mind your narrative. Just seems dishonest to pretend this isn't a big deal for your program.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 9:13 am
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:11 am to
and in 14 gave up what???

41, 34 to Aub and State......and couldn't get off the field in games against Bama and ND...with Bama being a joke with only a few seconds to kill.....

Chavis is good. Chavis though, is not good, at the end of games....I don't know what goes through his mind....if you remember Tenn wanted him gone......they kept telling us good luck with third and chavis........they were right and wrong. He turned out to be a good dc....but they were right about third and long.
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