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Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:40 am to
Posted by CNB
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:40 am to
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So the Hail Mary to beat UGA wasn't luck because it was the playcall? Is that what you're saying too?


Are you retarded?
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:40 am to
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Anytime you have a 100+ yard play to END REGULATION it's luck


Well that's simply not true. Just because something doesn't happen often doesn't make it luck. That play was extremely fortunate and rate, but I wouldn't call it luck.

the uga play was flat out, no way around it, pure dumb luck.
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:40 am to
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Most teams aren't stupid enough to try a 57 yard FG.



This fricking baffles me. I was watching this game at home with a group of about 40 Alabama and Auburn friends. When they lined up I said, "There's no way he's going to make this, watch Auburn return it for a TD."

Saban normally makes great in game decisions like this but this had to be one of his most ignorant decisions in his entire career.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:41 am to
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I bet you think the LSU Fake FG "bounce" against Florida was all skill too.


No, that wasn't luck. Luck is rare. Fake FGs are relatively common, especially with Lester calling the shots.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:42 am to
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Anytime you have a 100+ yard play to END REGULATION it's luck.


1. It happened twice last year.

2. Why does when it happened have anything to do with "luck"?
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:42 am to
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How is a returned FG for a TD luck?


there's been a debate on this for months i've noticed.

i don't know that it was luck either because all in all it was a great play but it was definitely an oddball situation/an anomaly/unusual something.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:43 am to
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Are you retarded?


TT was saying that the Kick Six wasn't luck because Chris Davis was sent back there to return the kick.
He is arguing that it was not luck because it was the playcall.

That's his logic, not mine. He is the one saying if you call the play, it's not luck.

I'm guessing Auburn called a Hail Mary before the actual TD versus UGA
This post was edited on 5/2/14 at 9:44 am
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:43 am to
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So the Hail Mary to beat UGA wasn't luck because it was the playcall? Is that what you're saying too?
First off, the play call wasn't a Hail Mary (RiCardo Louis was the only one that went deep on the play). Second off, yes, it was luck. Nick Marshall didn't plan on throwing it down field and having it deflect off two Georgia players. The only thing he planned on was throwing it deep and giving the receiver a chance.

You are really reaching here.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:43 am to
The bounce was 100% luck. The fake FG attempt was not luck. See the difference?
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:44 am to
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Before the timeout, Ryan Smith was back deep for Auburn. Gus Malzahn noticed the personnel on Alabama's side, called a timeout, and placed Chris Davis back there. He didn't take the timeout to freeze the kicker. He knew he had the competitive advantage, and Nick Saban didn't adjust to his adjustment.


Gus put his punt returner, who already had one punt returned for a TD, back there to field basically a punt.

Our ST scored 4 TDs last season. 2 KO returns, a pount return(Davis almost had a second), and FG return. Its not luck, it wsa good coaching, and sound blocking.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:44 am to
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LSU Fake FG "bounce"


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No, that wasn't luck


Yeah, it was.

The iron bowl return was something they probably practiced 100 times in practice. They blocked and executed. It it was after bama's first drive of the 1st quarter would it still be luck? The LSU fake FG was luck because a guy threw a ball backwards and it bounced off the ground directly into the arms of the runner. Guarantee you they didn't practice a bounce pass in practice.

Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26510 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:45 am to
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First off, the play call wasn't a Hail Mary (RiCardo Louis was the only one that went deep on the play). Second off, yes, it was luck. Nick Marshall didn't plan on throwing it down field and having it deflect off two Georgia players. The only thing he planned on was throwing it deep and giving the receiver a chance.


Nick Marshall didn't plan on throwing the ball downfield in an attempt to complete the pass?

Y'all cray
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:45 am to
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Anytime you have a 100+ yard play to END REGULATION it's luck.


You think just because time runs out it becomes lucky? You serious?

Auburn plans for a short kick and puts their top returner back to field it and it's lucky?
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26510 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:46 am to
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The bounce was 100% luck. The fake FG attempt was not luck. See the difference?


Meh.

We have different brains, for sure.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:46 am to
The fake FG for LSU was luck bec an oblong ball bounced directly up...that never happens esp when thrown behind you.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:46 am to
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Gus put his punt returner, who already had one punt returned for a TD, back there to field basically a punt.

Our ST scored 4 TDs last season. 2 KO returns, a pount return(Davis almost had a second), and FG return. Its not luck, it wsa good coaching, and sound blocking.
Exactly.

Not to mention, the most athletic players on the field for Alabama were Adrian Hubbard, Cody Mandell, Adam Griffith, and Ed Stinson. Auburn had many more athletes on the field, including Robenson Therezie, John Mincy, Chris Davis, LaDarius Owens, Kris Frost, and so forth. We had the competitive advantage and we won the game.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26510 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:47 am to
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that never happens


Kind of like returning a FG for a TD to beat your biggest rival and the #1 team in the country?
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:47 am to
The Georgia play was lucky because Nick Marshall underthrew/RiCardo Louis overran and if one of the two UGA players bats it down, it's over. That's luck.

A guy deep in the endzone on a long FG attempt running back for a TD is all skill. Not luck.

How you can't comprehend this fricking amazes me. You have me defending Auburn FFS
This post was edited on 5/2/14 at 9:48 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:47 am to
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Nick Marshall didn't plan on throwing the ball downfield in an attempt to complete the pass


He didn't plan on having it reach 2 defenders first, who ran into each other and deflect to his receiver, who had actually overrun the play by several yards.

geez please quit making me defend auburn.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26510 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 9:47 am to
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We had the competitive advantage and we won the game.


You would have won in overtime anyways. Teams who run well always win in OT.
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