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re: Blake Sims > Dak Prescott.....

Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:25 pm to
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Blake's QBR is so high because more than half of his throws are to the flats


Link please.

Posted by Patton
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:27 pm to
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Not even comparable

It's not even comparable because y'all hate Alabama too much to give their players the credit when they have earned it. This website was so off about Sims that it is impossible for them to admit their preconceived notions about him in the preseason and early in the year, were hilariously wrong.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:28 pm to
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It's not even comparable because y'all hate Alabama too much to give their players the credit when they have earned it. This website was so off about Sims that it is impossible for them to admit their preconceived notions about him in the preseason and early in the year, were hilariously wrong


Nah he's just Anthony Jennings with a great WR
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:28 pm to
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Kind of like Bama fans are bad arse at cherry picking stats.


I'll ask for a third time to please compare the two quarterbacks numbers against conference opponents. I'm not even asking you to post them. Just take a look.
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:29 pm to
It is what it is. If you still have those conference stats of both Qbs laying around now would be an excellent time to post them.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:30 pm to
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Nah he's just Anthony Jennings with a great WR


He really is. How many of those long passing plays you just listed screens or throws to a wide open Cooper?

Sims never made any plays that left people speechless. Cooper did several times though.
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:31 pm to
I know y'all love hypotheticals so try this one on for size. LSU would be undefeated with Blake Sims taking snaps for them.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:31 pm to
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I'll ask for a third time to please compare the two quarterbacks numbers against conference opponents. I'm not even asking you to post them. Just take a look


This is the definition of cherry picking stats. Dak's overall numbers are better so let's just use SEC stats.

It's too bad the awards committees don't use conference stats only I guess.
Posted by DaBama
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:32 pm to
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This website was so off about Sims that it is impossible for them to admit their preconceived notions about him in the preseason and early in the year, were hilariously wrong.


The same goes for the hiring of Kiffin. People just couldn't laugh hard enough about that one.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:32 pm to
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I know y'all love hypotheticals so try this one on for size. LSU would be undefeated with Blake Sims taking snaps for them


In OOC play? Maybe. I don't know if he would have brought LSU back vs. Wisconsin.
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 3:34 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:33 pm to
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I'll ask for a third time to please compare the two quarterbacks numbers against conference opponents. I'm not even asking you to post them. Just take a look.


Blake Sims vs SEC Opponents
9 games
158.3 Rating
165/266 (62%)
2,382 yards (264.7 ypg)
20 TD / 5 INT (4-1 TD to INT ratio)
55 rush attempts, 220 yards (4 ypc), 4 TDs

Dak Prescott vs SEC Opponents
9 games
142.7 Rating
154/250 (61.6%)
2,094 yards (261.8 ypg)
13 TD / 8 INT (1.7 to 1 TD to INT ratio)
149 rush attempts, 612 yards (4.11 ypc), 10 TDs
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 3:35 pm
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:33 pm to
Man you Gumps really are one of a kind
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65051 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:33 pm to
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Sims never made any plays that left people speechless.


True. But his poise and calm on a lot of those pressure intensive drives did.

Posted by Patton
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:34 pm to
Yea I'm cherry picking out the games where both QBs played embarrassing level of competition. Neither faced a OOC team worth a shite. It makes much more sense to cherry pick the stats each put up against the same opponent save two different east teams.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:34 pm to
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Dak's overall numbers are better so let's just use SEC stats.



I mean, congrats on the impressive stats against UAB, South Alabama, Southern Miss and UT-Martin.
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:35 pm to
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In OOC play? Maybe. I don't know if he would have brought LSU back vs. Wisconsin.


Yes LSU fan, bring up his ability to lead his team back. Excellent point.
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:35 pm to
It's also notable that Sims drew Florida (good defense that he absolutely shredded) and UT (decent defensively) while Dak had Vandy (terrible defensively) and UK (somehow even worse).

Sims had one of his best games of the season, setting records along the way, against one of the best defenses in the country in Mizzou while Dak was sitting at home because he threw three picks against Alabama.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:36 pm to
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Yea I'm cherry picking out the games where both QBs played embarrassing level of competition. Neither faced a OOC team worth a shite. It makes much more sense to cherry pick the stats each put up against the same opponent save two different east teams


Sure it makes sense when trying to push your narrative.
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16285 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:36 pm to
Not only is Dak better, but he's light years more effective as a team leader than Blake.
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 3:37 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 3:37 pm to
I got no problem with Prescott > Sims. He had a great year, is a great player and seems like a solid dude.

But this idea that Sims throws toss pass sweeps to Cooper 97% of the time is laughably stupid, yet typical.
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