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re: Bigger Deal: LSU's tDecline or Tenn's tDecline?
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:57 pm to BigOrangeBri
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:57 pm to BigOrangeBri
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So, one of biggest fanbases in the country and two markets that have more people watching college football does nothing for the SEC network.
No, not really.
A game like Tenn/Bama is Tier 1 content, or should be. The SEC Network is for Tier 2 or 3 level content that before was either on ESPN U, ESPN 3 or regional channels like the Sunshine Network in Florida. The stuff that adds real value to the SEC Network is basketball, women's softball, USC Football, etc. They need stuff to fill the air time.
Now one thing that confuses this is the fact that ESPN has put some obviously high Tier 2 games, like stuff that would be on ESPN 1 but not CBS, on the network. This will be rare and random as a way to put pressure on cable companies in certain localities, but most SEC Network content will be tier 3 content for over a decade.
CBS is going to get the first pick for a while, and that Tier 1 contract is the one that depends on media market value like you Tenn fans are hooked on. But that has NOTHING to do with the SEC Network. Nothing.
In fact, that CBS contact is under market value. As I implied earlier in the thread, if the SEC just depended on that old model it would make less that any other Power 5 conference because that deal was struck before the media rights boom that followed the Pac 12 contract.
Your stupid media markets don't pay the bills like they used to, at least when compared with a business model that forces every cable provider to buy our product because ESPN can point the SEC jihad fans at them and level their phone lines. Welcome to the 21st century Vol fans, the game has changed. Cable footprint in your state now matters more than history for money purposes.
As I said earlier, big regular season games are now more for exposure than full monetization. Unless you are going to tell me right now you expect Tenn to suck so bad in the near future that y'all are stuck on the SEC Network, which in that case you may have an arguement.
And before you go calling someone a moron how about you do a little bit of research yourself eh? You might know a lot about football or fricking your sister or something, but I know more about this media rights crap than ANYONE on the Rant. Bitch.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 8:04 pm
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Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:57 pm to TRUERockyTop
Biggest shock in the tDecline race is Lsu. Vols ain't been worth a shite for so long they no longer matter.
90's garbage.
90's garbage.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:58 pm to CockInYourEar
USCe being irrelevant
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:00 pm to CockInYourEar
Tennessee is upswinging. LSU, not so much.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:15 pm to CockInYourEar
LSU has won 8 games a year this entire century.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:22 pm to JETigER
tDecline is all in their minds..
tLoaded..tBounceback..tTitles..
LSU in Natty Title Games..2004..2008..2012..
Rantards, guess which year the next title game is played in? That's right..2016!
tLoaded..tBounceback..tTitles..
LSU in Natty Title Games..2004..2008..2012..
Rantards, guess which year the next title game is played in? That's right..2016!
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:31 pm to cardboardboxer
cardboardboxer
You can write a book if you want, but it doesn't change the fact that you're a moron. Cock gobbling aggie cum dumpster, bitch.
You're wrong. It's ok.
You can write a book if you want, but it doesn't change the fact that you're a moron. Cock gobbling aggie cum dumpster, bitch.
You're wrong. It's ok.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:44 pm to BigOrangeBri
You think you are God damn Bama carrying that SEC brand, but you are not. Tenn, just like A&M, did jack squat to contribute to the streak. That is what the SEC Network is leveraging to get distribution. Actually we contribute to the SEC Network revenue WAY more than you, having no other SEC team in a huge state.
Call me whatever you want, but if the SEC traded Tennessee for the University of Virginia tomorrow we would make WAY more fricking money without your dusty old brand. Just because you don't understand how the SEC Network works doesn't mean everyone doesn't.
Call me whatever you want, but if the SEC traded Tennessee for the University of Virginia tomorrow we would make WAY more fricking money without your dusty old brand. Just because you don't understand how the SEC Network works doesn't mean everyone doesn't.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:44 pm to Bias
Do they still play football at S Carolina 
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:47 pm to cardboardboxer
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Call me whatever you want, but if the SEC traded Tennessee for the University of Virginia tomorrow we would make WAY more fricking money without your dusty old brand.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:52 pm to cardboardboxer
But Arkansas is important? Nashville and Memphis are two of the biggest city in the SEC footprint. Tennessee is a dusty old brand and A&M is a dusty no brand.
Also, Knoxville is one of the few cities in the SEC.
Again, you're wrong. It's ok
Also, Knoxville is one of the few cities in the SEC.
Again, you're wrong. It's ok
Posted on 1/14/15 at 8:54 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Its true. Your state is surrounded by SEC states, and still has Vandy. The network could get full distribution in your state without you.
Even it we lost all distribution in your state it only has 6.5 million people compared to Virginia's 8+ million potential cable viewers, plus probably the DC market. The Network rates are higher for states with a SEC team. At least the University of Virginia is AAU unlike Tennessee.
If in the modern era your was a brand like Bama you would be a reason for asking those rates, but instead you are like us - just a population base for the Network. Except you split 6.5 million in some way, while we are the sole anchor for 25+ million people.
Even it we lost all distribution in your state it only has 6.5 million people compared to Virginia's 8+ million potential cable viewers, plus probably the DC market. The Network rates are higher for states with a SEC team. At least the University of Virginia is AAU unlike Tennessee.
If in the modern era your was a brand like Bama you would be a reason for asking those rates, but instead you are like us - just a population base for the Network. Except you split 6.5 million in some way, while we are the sole anchor for 25+ million people.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 9:03 pm to BigOrangeBri
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But Arkansas is important?
No, who said that? At most they help us lock the rates in DFW like LSU does in Houston.
Nashville has maybe a million in the metro. Memphis metro is a little bigger but not all in your state. The Washington DC Metro alone is six million. Not all in Virginia but the scale is different. Texas has five metro areas over a million, two over six million.
Your shitty little Tennessee cities were maybe big when Atlanta was the standard, but the SEC grew when you couldn't. They added two teams and got a 50% population footprint boost. That is what matters in 2015, and if you think otherwise you are wrong.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 9:04 pm to cardboardboxer
Thing is, nobody cares. Why would SEC trade college sports loving state and fanbase for a never been Virginia program. Just because there are people in a state, doesn't mean they're watching college sports. The SEC would never trade one of their powers for fricking Virginia, I don't care if they had 20 million.
Again, you're wrong. It's cool
Again, you're wrong. It's cool
Posted on 1/14/15 at 9:05 pm to CockInYourEar
We're in #recline, homeboy. Sit back and stay tuned.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 9:07 pm to cardboardboxer
You did in your first post.
Yeah, there are tons of people in Texas. A large majority care about The University of Texas
Yeah, there are tons of people in Texas. A large majority care about The University of Texas
Posted on 1/14/15 at 9:08 pm to cardboardboxer
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but I know more about this media rights crap than ANYONE on the Rant. Bitch.
This thread got awesome in the end!
Keep going.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 9:14 pm to BigOrangeBri
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Thing is, nobody cares. Why would SEC trade college sports loving state and fanbase for a never been Virginia program. Just because there are people in a state, doesn't mean they're watching college sports.
That doesn't matter. There is some grandma in Tennessee right now that does not give a crap about your program or any college football who plays over a buck to us just because other conferences set the business model and other teams built the SEC'S streak.
Your thinking of what matters is very 1999. Time to snap out of it.
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The SEC would never trade one of their powers for fricking Virginia, I don't care if they had 20 million.
You are right, it would never happen. All I said was given the business model that if we did we would make more money.
No you are set because Bama likes you and those rates are 40% Bama. But don't get the big head because the fired fat arse helped get a good SEC contract in the 90s or something, because that is all chickenscratch compared to the SEC Network.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 9:19 pm to cardboardboxer
I'm just glad the Aggies joined so now all those Texas fans are forced to have SEC network. And yes, bama has pulled weight the last few years. It may be a different team in 5 years. Who knows
Posted on 1/14/15 at 9:20 pm to BigOrangeBri
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Yeah, there are tons of people in Texas. A large majority care about The University of Texas
And just like grandma they are paying a buck to our network, just like I pay a quarter back to theirs. Only one distributor in Texas tried to buck this model-Directv. But they ended up caving because the modern SEC brand built by the streak is too strong.
I hope you are enjoying your education in modern college sports monetization. Call me Mr. Time Machine because we are going to jump your understanding 10 years in a night.
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