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re: Big 12 in SEC

Posted on 12/2/13 at 10:54 am to
Posted by BigD Ag
Dallas
Member since Dec 2011
1635 posts
Posted on 12/2/13 at 10:54 am to
Speaking of losers - how are you guys in the Big XII handling being owned by such monster programs as Baylor and OSU?
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 12/2/13 at 10:55 am to
How do you define success there chief? Got 7 in a row?
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37971 posts
Posted on 12/2/13 at 10:57 am to
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I do not come here often, but has there been any discussion that maybe the SEC isn't as strong as most of you think? Two perennial Big 12 losers (1 championship between them both...last century) move to the SEC and instantly have success. I'm sure you guys have explanations/excuses for this. I am interested in learning what they are. I agree with all the Big 12 bashing I have seen here, but how is this consistent with the success of aTm and Mizzou in the SEC?


lulz

You should honestly think about coming here far less.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81091 posts
Posted on 12/2/13 at 11:05 am to
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Two perennial Big 12 losers (1 championship between them both...last century) move to the SEC and instantly have success


Nice try, sip. Maybe you can explain how 2 perennial Big 12 doormats (Baylor and Oklahoma State, who have one outright conference title between them the last FIFTY years) lead your conference.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 12/2/13 at 11:06 am to
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How do you define success there chief? Got 7 in a row?


And only Florida came out of the East - my point being that it is a weak division, not a weak conference. Nowdays, Florida would be battling KU for the cellar in the Big 12. I mean losing to Georgia Southern at home? Come on man!
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67476 posts
Posted on 12/2/13 at 11:07 am to
quote:

I do not come here often, but has there been any discussion that maybe the SEC isn't as strong as most of you think? Two perennial Big 12 losers (1 championship between them both...last century) move to the SEC and instantly have success. I'm sure you guys have explanations/excuses for this. I am interested in learning what they are. I agree with all the Big 12 bashing I have seen here, but how is this consistent with the success of aTm and Mizzou in the SEC?


Well A&M lsot 4 games this year, and Mizzou is playing in the weakest East division in a while.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81091 posts
Posted on 12/2/13 at 11:11 am to
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won their division 3x


Missouri only went to 2 Big 12 Title games, therefore they couldn't have won the division three times.
This post was edited on 12/2/13 at 11:12 am
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81091 posts
Posted on 12/2/13 at 11:12 am to
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Nowdays, Florida would be battling KU for the cellar in the Big 12. I mean losing to Georgia Southern at home? Come on man!


Last year's Big 12 Champion lost to North Dakota State at home.

Florida would be a 9 win team in the Big 12.
Posted by Fizzou
Member since Oct 2013
598 posts
Posted on 12/2/13 at 11:16 am to
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Missouri only went to 2 Big 12 Title games, therefore they couldn't have won the division three times.

They technically shared the Big 12 North title with Nebraska in 2010, but Nebraska went to the CCG because they won the head-to-head matchup.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81091 posts
Posted on 12/2/13 at 11:19 am to
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They technically shared the Big 12 North title with Nebraska in 2010, but Nebraska went to the CCG because they won the head-to-head matchup.


Before 2011, only 6 teams had ever won a Big 12 title:

Oklahoma - 7
Texas - 3
Nebraska - 2
Colorado - 1
Kansas State - 1
Texas A&M - 1

Since 2011, only one of those teams has won a conference title (Kansas State).

Let's congratulate the sips for making Baylor relevant.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12501 posts
Posted on 12/2/13 at 11:41 am to
Lulz at a Big 12 fan trying to argue about quality of conference when his will be won by either Okie Light or Baylor.
Posted by SpunkInPublic
Dallas
Member since Sep 2013
52 posts
Posted on 12/2/13 at 12:08 pm to
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Perhaps the Big 12 is regretting hauling in powerhouses like TCU and West Virgina


Well to be fair, TCU and WVU were both BCS bowl teams when they were in the Mountain West and Big East respectively.

Miz and aTm were both average in big 12 before joining the SEC, now they are powerhouses.

aTm beats #1 team in first year.. LOL
Miz goes to SECCG in second year.. LOL
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58318 posts
Posted on 12/2/13 at 12:10 pm to
3 SEC teams in the BCS top 5. Big 12 please!!
Posted by Bogie00
Tiger in Kansas
Member since Apr 2012
5704 posts
Posted on 12/2/13 at 12:20 pm to
We both know SEC is the best FB conference.

Many would say the SEC is down this year, but still the best there is.

Mizzou realized that playing with the best, helps a team improve. Have you never noticed that is true in most any sport competition? On top of that, the general excitement and donations is a big upgrade from Big 2-2+2-2. Success breeds success!
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