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Posted on 12/2/13 at 9:54 am
Posted on 12/2/13 at 9:54 am
I do not come here often, but has there been any discussion that maybe the SEC isn't as strong as most of you think? Two perennial Big 12 losers (1 championship between them both...last century) move to the SEC and instantly have success. I'm sure you guys have explanations/excuses for this. I am interested in learning what they are. I agree with all the Big 12 bashing I have seen here, but how is this consistent with the success of aTm and Mizzou in the SEC?
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Posted on 12/2/13 at 9:56 am to Clay
JFF and a horrible SEC East.
/discussion
That said, Mizzou is an extremely talented team this year, and Pinkel changed his offensive philosophy to a more SEC-friendly approach and it's working.
/discussion
That said, Mizzou is an extremely talented team this year, and Pinkel changed his offensive philosophy to a more SEC-friendly approach and it's working.
This post was edited on 12/2/13 at 9:57 am
Posted on 12/2/13 at 9:56 am to Clay
Ignore Mizzou last year
Ignore Johnny Football
Ignore Johnny Football
Posted on 12/2/13 at 9:56 am to Clay
aTm annihilated OU in last year cotton bowl.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 9:57 am to Clay
What did aTm win?
Florida lost to Georiga Southern
Florida lost to Georiga Southern
Posted on 12/2/13 at 9:58 am to Clay
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Two perennial Big 12 losers
Posted on 12/2/13 at 9:58 am to Clay
Has there been discussion within your family that you're an idiot?
Missouri has recently played in two Big 12 title games. They weren't a "perennial loser". They were an above average (sometimes mediocre, sometimes pretty good) program.
Texas A&M has JFF. They'd have gone undefeated in the Big 12-2-2+2 last season and probably beaten Notre Dame in the national title game (Alabama would have been left out). But playing the SEC, they didn't even make it to the conference title game.
Missouri has recently played in two Big 12 title games. They weren't a "perennial loser". They were an above average (sometimes mediocre, sometimes pretty good) program.
Texas A&M has JFF. They'd have gone undefeated in the Big 12-2-2+2 last season and probably beaten Notre Dame in the national title game (Alabama would have been left out). But playing the SEC, they didn't even make it to the conference title game.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 9:59 am to Clay
Youre dumb. Mizzou or Texas A&M would not be where they are without being in the SEC. Why? Recruiting. 90% of our recruits would not be at Mizzou if they were in the Big12. Think more outside the box, its more than just the team name. They are a lot different now
This post was edited on 12/2/13 at 10:01 am
Posted on 12/2/13 at 9:59 am to Clay
I call BS. Mizzou had more wins that most bevo 12 teams in the last 5 years. A&M was on a coaching carousel. The crappy conference was arguably holding them back. The SEC is plenty strong, all up and down the team roster - not just at the top. Teams willing to do what it takes can succeed here.
Just slide on back into your hole.
Just slide on back into your hole.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 9:59 am to sugatowng
quote:and beat Arkanloss
What did aTm win? Florida lost to Georiga Southern
Along with everyone else
Posted on 12/2/13 at 9:59 am to Clay
Just joining the SEC has had a huge impact in their recruiting and also aTm has a good coach now.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 10:00 am to MIZ_STL
Miz Stl- How many big 12 championships did mizzou win in the history of the conference? I think "loser" is a fair description.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 10:01 am to mizzou18
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Youre dumb. Mizzou or Texas A&M would not be where they are without being in the SEC. Why? Recruiting. 90% of our recruits would not be at Mizzou if theu were in the Big12. Think more outside the box, its more than just the team name. They are a lot different now
This.
Arkansas almost got DGB, and definitely would have if Mizzou were still in the Big 12. Mizzou has a ton of in-state talent and can now lock more of those kids down with the draw of SEC membership. Texas A&M has been killing it in recruiting because they can play the SEC card. Enough said.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 10:01 am to Clay
Mizzou has won its division 4 out of the last 7 years.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 10:02 am to Clay
A rising tide (not Tide) lifts all boats.
You breathe in the excellence that is the SEC and your team naturally improves.
You stay in the fetid swamp that is the big whatever and you naturally sink to the lowest common denominator.
Fact.
You breathe in the excellence that is the SEC and your team naturally improves.
You stay in the fetid swamp that is the big whatever and you naturally sink to the lowest common denominator.
Fact.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 10:02 am to Feral
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horrible SEC East
This
Posted on 12/2/13 at 10:02 am to Clay
Mizzou: A solid team in the Big 12 the last few seasons (averaged 9 wins the last 7 years in the conference). Changed their offensive and defensive philosophies to better fit the SEC after a season filled with devastating injuries.
Texas A&M: Had terrible coaches until Sumlin, and Johnny Football didn't play in the Big 12.
Neither team's success in the SEC has anything to do with the Big 12.
Texas A&M: Had terrible coaches until Sumlin, and Johnny Football didn't play in the Big 12.
Neither team's success in the SEC has anything to do with the Big 12.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 10:03 am to Clay
This just means the SEC even recruits other schools better than anyone else.
SEC! SEC! We're GODS down here!
SEC! SEC! We're GODS down here!
Posted on 12/2/13 at 10:04 am to GoldenDawg
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A rising tide (not Tide) lifts all boats.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 10:05 am to Crimson Legend
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This just means the SEC even recruits other schools better than anyone else.
Perhaps the Big 12 is regretting hauling in powerhouses like TCU and West Virgina.
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