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re: Betting Trends- 73% of betting public taking State +24

Posted on 10/25/12 at 10:55 am to
Posted by Roll Damn Tide
Birmingham
Member since Jan 2012
379 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 10:55 am to
What you State fans don't understand is that vegas knows exactly what they are doing. So you not comprehending why the line is +24 isn't all that shocking to everyone else.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 10:57 am to
Is this a State thing? Not letting the opponent cover a spread is almost as good as a victory?
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 11:01 am to
Yes, go lay down a mil and see how much it moves. How many times have you ever seen a spread move over 5 points?
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 11:15 am to
quote:

What you State fans don't understand is that vegas knows exactly what they are doing. So you not comprehending why the line is +24 isn't all that shocking to everyone else.


Why don't you explain it to us then...
Posted by Roll Damn Tide
Birmingham
Member since Jan 2012
379 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 11:30 am to
You explain to me why Vegas would make that the line. We can play a little game of Scores and points. State beat UT by 10 at home, Bama beats them by 31 on the road. 21 point swing give Bama 3 for being at Home. DYSWIDT? not saying its the case but there is a reason they think Bama is a 24 fav , because they are!
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
6913 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 11:35 am to
They made Bammer a 24 pt favorite because the betting public overvalues Bammer at home. That's why Bammer is 1-5 in their last 6 home games against the Spread. They can put a big ridiculous number up and still get dumbasses to bet on Bammer
This post was edited on 10/25/12 at 11:36 am
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
Member since Jan 2009
25607 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 11:44 am to
Then why is the betting public on State?
Posted by HoLeInOnEr05
Middle of the fairway
Member since Aug 2011
16834 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 12:01 pm to
These people don't realize. Everyone comparing the lines of the Arky, Mizzou, or UT games to this are delusional. All of those games were on the road. That, in itself, makes up for a 6-14 point swing right there.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

These people don't realize. Everyone comparing the lines of the Arky, Mizzou, or UT games to this are delusional. All of those games were on the road. That, in itself, makes up for a 6-14 point swing right there.


Try 3.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

You explain to me why Vegas would make that the line. We can play a little game of Scores and points. State beat UT by 10 at home, Bama beats them by 31 on the road. 21 point swing give Bama 3 for being at Home. DYSWIDT? not saying its the case but there is a reason they think Bama is a 24 fav , because they are!


We have been over this already, the line isn't set on what Vegas thinks will happen. It is set on what Vegas thinks the mean bet will be.
Posted by lightbulbz
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2012
908 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 12:09 pm to
86% taking A&M is fricking hilarious. That opening line was the most nonsensical of the season.
Posted by HoLeInOnEr05
Middle of the fairway
Member since Aug 2011
16834 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 12:22 pm to
Try you're wrong!
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
19453 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 12:23 pm to
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It's funny watching idiots think they understand Vegas
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Try you're wrong!


No, the line gives an automatic -3 to the home team. It's pretty common knowledge.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
8972 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

The more it moves the more money it takes to move it.

I responded to the above quote

and you replied with..
quote:

go lay down a mil and see how much it moves. How many times have you ever seen a spread move over 5 points?



the fact that lines seldom move in one direction by five or more points, does not prove your point that it takes more money to move the line as it moves. Excluding outlier factors and considering the line is moving on normal variables, the exact opposite is normally the case.

For example... Vegas puts out a "bad line on Sunday of Troy -15, the sharps immediately pound the good side and the line starts to move quickly.
The faster it moves the less amount of money is needed to move the line further. Vegas will be adjusting quickly to counter, therefore requiring less and less of bet$ to get the line adjusted ASAP.

Tons of other variables are involved... certain numbers(3,6,7,10,13,14) are more difficult to move to/from so that is always another consideration.
Posted by HoLeInOnEr05
Middle of the fairway
Member since Aug 2011
16834 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 12:30 pm to
It's anywhere from 3-7 ... so if it was-20 @ Arky... would make it -26 @ Bama...
Posted by BrocraticMethod
a dumpster
Member since Sep 2011
2326 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

They made Bammer a 24 pt favorite because the betting public overvalues Bammer at home. That's why Bammer is 1-5 in their last 6 home games against the Spread. They can put a big ridiculous number up and still get dumbasses to bet on Bammer



But I thought you said 73% of the "betting public" was taking State
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64628 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 12:54 pm to
he doesn't know what he says.......ever.
Posted by Brodeur
Member since Feb 2012
4622 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 1:05 pm to
So why don't the "sharp" bettors wait for 75% of the public to bet State and take it after the line goes down?
Posted by Alabamya
Da Ham
Member since Jan 2009
9179 posts
Posted on 10/25/12 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

We have been over this already, the line isn't set on what Vegas thinks will happen


You might want to do a little research on just how close Vegas is at hitting the set numbers. It is amazing how close they usually are % wise.
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