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re: Best SEC Teams since 2005 (per F+)
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:22 pm to dawgfan24348
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:22 pm to dawgfan24348
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Point? Your site sucks
It's not my site
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:22 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Same way 2009 Florida comes out ahead of 2009 Alabama in ESPN FPI and S&P systems. Taking the entire body of work (ignoring scores of games and just using data from the games) it determined one was better than the other.
Any formula that determines that 2010 Bama is better than 2010 Auburn is pure horseshite. Auburn was the undefeated SEC & BCS Champion AND beat that same Bama team on their own field AFTER spotting them a 24 points.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:22 pm to AlaTiger
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The 2011 LSU team would have destroyed the 2012 Bama team. The 2012 LSU team almost beat 2012 Alabama. Should have, actually. The 2012 Bama team was REALLY good. You just have them a little high, in my opinion.
(a) I didn't rank them
(b) Destroyed? Really?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:23 pm to Darth_Vader
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formula that determines that 2010 Bama is better than 2010 Auburn is pure horse shite. Auburn was the undefeated SEC & BCS Champion AND beat that same Bama team on their own field AFTER spotting them a 24 points.
I agree that certain teams, 2010 Alabama being a prime example (Oklahoma has had a few as well) seemingly do things well that game the system.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:34 pm to SummerOfGeorge
There is so much wrong with those rankings
2012 Georgia should be in the top 10
2011 LSU should be in the top 2
2012 Alabama should be lower
2012 Texas A&M should not even be near top 10
2013 Alabama is too high
2014 Alabama is too high
2012 Georgia should be in the top 10
2011 LSU should be in the top 2
2012 Alabama should be lower
2012 Texas A&M should not even be near top 10
2013 Alabama is too high
2014 Alabama is too high
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:38 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:Agree
2012 Georgia should be in the top 10
quote:Probably, but I'd put 2008 Florida above both 2011 Alabama and LSU, but I'd make those 3 the best overall
2011 LSU should be in the top 2
quote:Maybe a few spots, but 4-6 range
2012 Alabama should be lower
quote:Why? Their last 6 games they beat MSU by 25, won @ #1 Alabama, beat OU by 30 in the Cotton Bowl. They lost by 3 to Top 5 Florida and 5 to Top 15 LSU.
2012 Texas A&M should not even be near top 10
quote:2013 Alabama is probably too high, but people forget how good they were going into the Auburn game. But probably 6-7 range. We will see in the coming weeks re: 2014 Bama.
2013 Alabama is too high 2014 Alabama is too high
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:46 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The methodology is stats driven with little factoring of results.
It's interesting but incomplete as some teams were extremely dominant against outmatched opponents but failed to rise to the occasion at times and got beat.
2010 Bama completely destroyed lesser opponents but lost to the really good teams they faced.
That methodology speaks more to a teams overall potential in some ways.
It's interesting but incomplete as some teams were extremely dominant against outmatched opponents but failed to rise to the occasion at times and got beat.
2010 Bama completely destroyed lesser opponents but lost to the really good teams they faced.
That methodology speaks more to a teams overall potential in some ways.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:48 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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The methodology is stats driven with little factoring of results. It's interesting but incomplete as some teams were extremely dominant against outmatched opponents but failed to rise to the occasion at times and got beat. 2010 Bama completely destroyed lesser opponents but lost to the really good teams they faced. That methodology speaks more to a teams overall potential in some ways.
Exactly. Very well put. It isn't an end all be all for specific rankings but it is a pretty good way to get a feel for teams from different years and is very good when you want to look at more specifics in certain matchups.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:57 pm to SummerOfGeorge
My rankings:
1. 2011 Alabama
2. 2011 LSU
3. 2008 Florida
4. 2012 Alabama
5. 2009 Alabama
6. 2014 Alabama
7. 2010 Auburn
8. 2006 Florida
9. 2010 LSU
10a. 2006 LSU
10b. 2006 Auburn
Most magical season: 2013 Auburn
Luckiest team: 2007 LSU
1. 2011 Alabama
2. 2011 LSU
3. 2008 Florida
4. 2012 Alabama
5. 2009 Alabama
6. 2014 Alabama
7. 2010 Auburn
8. 2006 Florida
9. 2010 LSU
10a. 2006 LSU
10b. 2006 Auburn
Most magical season: 2013 Auburn
Luckiest team: 2007 LSU
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:59 pm to LSUtiger89
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My rankings: 1. 2011 Alabama 2. 2011 LSU 3. 2008 Florida 4. 2012 Alabama 5. 2009 Alabama 6. 2014 Alabama 7. 2010 Auburn 8. 2006 Florida 9. 2010 LSU 10a. 2006 LSU 10b. 2006 Auburn Most magical season: 2013 Auburn Luckiest team: 2007 LSU
Solid list. I think I might have 2008 Florida at #1 but that's splitting hairs.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:01 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:18 pm to SummerOfGeorge
It is splitting hairs. I just don't think 2008 would beat the 2011 Alabama and LSU teams. Their offense was good, I just feel those two teams would stonewall Florida's offense without a legitimate runner.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:20 pm to LSUtiger89
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Their offense was good, I just feel those two teams would stonewall Florida's offense without a legitimate runner.
That is a good point. Pretty much what we did in 2009.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:21 pm to SummerOfGeorge
What about 06 LSU? Scored 33.7 ppg allowed 12.6 ppg. Averaged 417.8 ypg on offense and 242.8 ypg on defense.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:27 pm to Datbayoubengal
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What about 06 LSU? Scored 33.7 ppg allowed 12.6 ppg. Averaged 417.8 ypg on offense and 242.8 ypg on defense.
Yeah, 2006 LSU over 2010 LSU for sure. That was an amazing team.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:33 pm to AlaTiger
I had them ranked right next to each other. I flipped back and forth between the two. But looking back, 2006 prob is better. With playing 2006 Florida and 2006 Auburn that year.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 4:03 pm to LSUtiger89
That team was sick. Top 5 for sure.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 4:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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8. 2010 Alabama - 37.2%
9. 2010 Auburn - 36.5%
Seems legit.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 4:21 pm to LSUtiger89
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7. 2010 Auburn
How are they not first?
They had 4 teams in their own division finish in the Top 15, all of which they beat...Beat a ranked South Carolina TWICE, then beat Oregon in the natty...The BEST Oregon team to date.
Amazing...
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:45 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Some really odd choices on there. 2011 Alabama and LSU are obviously 1a/1b. Followed by 2008 Florida and 2010 Auburn.
2012 Texas A&M really? Over a team like 2007 LSU that actually won a championship?
2012 Texas A&M really? Over a team like 2007 LSU that actually won a championship?
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