re: Bear Bryant admits he'll be known as ND's female dog in new article

You linked to a blog. Not exactly responsible journalism like the WSJ, but I read it nonetheless.

The article is factually inaccurate, implying that Wilbur Jackson was recruited and signed after the 1970 loss to Southern Cal. That is not true. He was recruited and signed to a scholarship at the end of his senior year in high school (fall of 1969). He enrolled at UA in the fall of 1970, the same season that UA played Southern Cal at Legion Field. I do understand that a lot of posters on the rant are young, but you need to understand that at the time that Wilbur Jackson signed with UA, all freshmen were ineligible. It was just a fact of life in those days. It's a common misconception that Sam "Bam" Cunningham caused Bryant and Alabama to recruit black players, but it's simply not the truth. I do believe, however, that Cunningham's performance on the field caused a lot of Alabama fans to soften their stance on black players, because they saw the way a black player could dominate a game and wanted that for Alabama.

So not only is your link inaccurate, so is your comment about Bear adding black players after USC crushed them in the 70's at home. The Alabama team was already integrated when they took the field against Southern Cal in 1970. I'm sure someone will probably ask for a link and I will tell you to use Google. It's pretty easy to find. The link I used was to my own memory.

Now. In honor of my first post on the rant: Which SEC team was the last to integrate? Think purple and bright yellow. Or use Google. It's easy to find.

Did I do that right?

While those losses in the 1970's caused the hatred of Notre Dame to rise to an unbelievable level, it was not the beginning of it. The 1966 national championship vote for a Notre Dame team that played for a tie against Michigan State that caused the animus in the first place. Notre Dame also refused all bowl invitations at that time. Alabama crushed Nebraska in the Sugar Bowl 34-7. My mom had a bumpersticker that said "Notre Dame plays politics. Alabama plays football."

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re: Bear Bryant admits he'll be known as ND's female dog in new article (Posted on 12/23/12 at 10:39 a.m. to TulemTiger)

You linked to a blog. Not exactly responsible journalism like the WSJ, but I read it nonetheless.

The article is factually inaccurate, implying that Wilbur Jackson was recruited and signed after the 1970 loss to Southern Cal. That is not true. He was recruited and signed to a scholarship at the end of his senior year in high school (fall of 1969). He enrolled at UA in the fall of 1970, the same season that UA played Southern Cal at Legion Field. I do understand that a lot of posters on the rant are young, but you need to understand that at the time that Wilbur Jackson signed with UA, all freshmen were ineligible. It was just a fact of life in those days. It's a common misconception that Sam "Bam" Cunningham caused Bryant and Alabama to recruit black players, but it's simply not the truth. I do believe, however, that Cunningham's performance on the field caused a lot of Alabama fans to soften their stance on black players, because they saw the way a black player could dominate a game and wanted that for Alabama.

So not only is your link inaccurate, so is your comment about Bear adding black players after USC crushed them in the 70's at home. The Alabama team was already integrated when they took the field against Southern Cal in 1970. I'm sure someone will probably ask for a link and I will tell you to use Google. It's pretty easy to find. The link I used was to my own memory.

Now. In honor of my first post on the rant: Which SEC team was the last to integrate? Think purple and bright yellow. Or use Google. It's easy to find.

Did I do that right?

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lordy lordy...

Maybe Google could use a few more clicks from you and the SEC rant could use a few less posts.

The last school to add Black players was Ole Miss...any kid in pre-school knows that...on that massive FAIL, see ya later Genius

What I'm saying, is that both LSU and Ole Miss were last to sign a black player. That's what "at the same time" means.

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claiming LSU was the LAST SEC school to add black players, when in fact Ole Miss was the LAST.

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Both Ole Miss and LSU were LAST to add black players. Both had players sign at the same time in 1971.

Ummm. Where should I start with this?

I never called out my great mind. I said memory, which implies that I remember it happening. In fact, unlike a lot of posters on the rant, I was alive and cognizant of things going on in the world during the integration of SEC football teams. I remember very well reading an article back in '71 or '72 about how Ole Lady and LSU were the last two teams in the SEC to sign black players. Same recruiting class, same season to integrate. You can't somehow claim that LSU has some type of superiority over Ole Lady just because a black player actually took the field two weeks earlier.

It is factual that LSU was the last team to integrate. It is also factual that Ole Miss was as well. It's a two-way tie for last. I knew what I was doing. You just don't understand the sublime beauty of a subtle troll.

Yes, you were trolled in your very first thread, so how does that come out to a B-? The clue for you should have been the hint "in honor of my first post." There's your red flag. I guess you missed it thinking it was crimson.

You proclaimed "lordy lordy" when you responded to me, but maybe I should do the same. Lordy, lordy. Every kid in pre-school knows that John Robinson was not the coach of Southern Cal in 1970, it was John McKay. I guess John Robinson didn't do the Bear a favor after all, as you said in one of your posts after you proclaimed you were leaving to do something else.

Yes, I am old, but I am learning to use emoticons.

Props to pvilleguru for providing the link to the article with the chart.

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Bama finally beat Notre Dame in the 1980's. I don't believe Bear was still alive when they did. Bear lost all those games to Notre Dame during the segregation days.....Notre Dame was intergrated, Alabama wasn't.

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What if the frick are you talking about? Alabama integrated the football team in 1970. Its first African-American scholarship player saw the field in 1971. He faced Notre Dame three times after that point.

John McKay was the USC coach at that time. Robinson succeeded McKay in 1976