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re: Based on Alabama's recruiting, will they shift to more of an LSU style defense?
Posted on 2/7/14 at 6:11 am to OldPete
Posted on 2/7/14 at 6:11 am to OldPete
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At least when they play Auburn and Texas A&M I hope so...LSU seems to have the blueprint for stoppin' 'em...
I disagree. I'm going to have to side with the Aggies versus LSU. In 2012, Manziel wasn't a fully developed quarterback. I don't believe the game would have played out the same way on Thanksgiving weekend. In 2013, Manziel was playing with a broken thumb and missed a few wide open receivers. Additionally, Manziel's receivers had crucial drops. Furthermore, I've seen LSU fans admit that Sumlin just got outcoached both years, i.e. supposedly A&M would have had success power running the ball up the gut of the LSU defense both years, but they never attacked in that manner. The ball was in Manziel's hands too much.
2013 LSU faced Auburn before Auburn developed their great rushing attack. The Auburn team that lost to LSU on Sept 21 is considerably inferior to the Auburn team that won the Iron Bowl and SEC Championship game. In 2010, Auburn rushed for 440 yards on LSU's talented defense. All LSU's defense did was limit the score, but Auburn had an opportunity to score 1 more touchdown at the end of the game and declined the chance.
So, what is this blueprint that you speak of?
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 6:14 am
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 6:32 am to Gardevoir
The reason LSU was so successful against both those teams was due to the schedule. In 2012 A&M went through that early stretch against LSU and FL still trying to figure out their identity, they were not the same team by the end of the year. Same could be said about Auburn this year. A better look at LSUs D vs a team in its stride offensively is this years game against Ole Miss. I think Auburn, A&M and Ole Miss would welcome an LSU designed Bama Defense.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 6:44 am to Gardevoir
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So, what is this blueprint that you speak of?
The blueprint that led us to a 34-10 victory with 299 total yards given up to A&M. Whilst Bama gave up 628 (the most in like 80 yrs at Bama) in a 49-42 shootout.
The same blueprint that led us to a 24-19 victory in College Station in 2012. The same year A&M strolled into BDS and beat Bama 29-24 with 400+ total yards.
Glad I could help Bubba.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 6:50 am to Irons Puppet
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Nick's changing some things up - I doubt he will be a coach that sits back a lets the "game" pass him by in his old age. I'm glad that his desire to win won't let his coaching philosophy become complacent and stagnant.
Like many great Historical HC's, "The Bear" was smart enough to change things up and it seems Saban is too. Now when Saban gets in his 80's, slipping will be forgivable....
Posted on 2/7/14 at 6:55 am to BlackCloud
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Glad I could help Bubba.
You conveniently ignore that 2012 Alabama was coming off an emotional last minute Victory in Death Valley against their most anticipated opponent of each season. The team was still mentally fatigued the next week. Alabama outgained Texas A&M in the 29-24 loss and left at least 14 points off the board.
Alabama's secondary was green against A&M early this season, but Belue managed to keep Evans in check. Then Belue was injured, and Alabama couldn't stop Texas A&M.
LSU played shook up the lineup in their defensive secondary for the A&M game. Would the secondary that played Georgia or Alabama have shut down Texas A&M? It wasn't really a shut down either. Manziel was off target, and A&M's receivers dropped several balls without even being contacted.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 6:56 am to Irons Puppet
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The reason LSU was so successful against both those teams was due to the schedule
So...When LSU played A&M early they hadn't yet found their identity. When we play them late Lil Johnny has a sore thumb. Nevermind they were coming off a bye week and had just scored 56, 57 and 51 in the previous three games.
Bama got smoked when they played them early and late. You people here amaze me. I have become hooked on my morning coffee and comedy show around here.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 6:59 am
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:06 am to MrsGarrison
Are you an Auburn fan? They must have slipped you some crimson colored cool-aid.
When Bama loses its too late in the seaon or too early. They were coming off a draining victory or the players weren't focused on the process. Or the 5* players were pouting on the bench. Or the kicker sucks. Or the players beat themselves. Or they other teams always have something to prove. Or Or Or, If If If, And And And, But But But.
wouldn't it be easier to just say.......WE LOST ?
When Bama loses its too late in the seaon or too early. They were coming off a draining victory or the players weren't focused on the process. Or the 5* players were pouting on the bench. Or the kicker sucks. Or the players beat themselves. Or they other teams always have something to prove. Or Or Or, If If If, And And And, But But But.
wouldn't it be easier to just say.......WE LOST ?
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:12 am to BlackCloud
LSU fans talk more shite about Bama than anyone else. Yet, they haven't beat Bama in a while. Hilarious
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:14 am to BlackCloud
Bama did lose...just like LSU has lost 3 in a row.
I don't have an issue with Saban's D playing like LSU's against the aTm and Awbs of the world. But, I think he'll keep scheming like he has against everyone else. It's been VERY effective in all but one or two games a year and worked well against the team with the D you live vicariously through.
Winning 3 out of the last 5 NCs is perfectly okay with me.
I don't have an issue with Saban's D playing like LSU's against the aTm and Awbs of the world. But, I think he'll keep scheming like he has against everyone else. It's been VERY effective in all but one or two games a year and worked well against the team with the D you live vicariously through.
Winning 3 out of the last 5 NCs is perfectly okay with me.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:20 am to ksrph
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.just like LSU has lost 3 in a row.
Yet you won't see me make a litany of excuses to make myself feel better. We've lost three in a row because Bama is a very talented well coached team. SEE? How hard is that?
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Winning 3 out of the last 5 NCs is perfectly okay with me
Exactly why you people shouldn't be making up excuses for every loss. I feel like I'm leading a group therapy session.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 7:31 am
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:27 am to FourThreeForty
Trevor Knight molested them so I hope the process changes. That was almost as embarrassing as the Peach Bowl loss the swamp kittens had to Dabo.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:37 am to FourThreeForty
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will start to defend like the Mad Hatter?
This is the part I don't understand, actually. Why are we crediting Lester rather than Chavis? Miles is hardly a defensive-oriented coach. Without Chavis, or somebody equivalent, he'd still field decent defenses based on Louisiana talent alone, but it's highly unlikely he wins any of the games cited in this thread, at least not via the defense.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:55 am to BlackCloud
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Bama got smoked when they played them early and late. You people here amaze me. I have become hooked on my morning coffee and comedy show around here.
Timing is everything. Ask an Aggie. I recall one stating that Manziel broke his thumb versus Mississippi State, which was the game preceding the LSU and Missouri losses. Don't deny that LSU shook up their defensive secondary when they played A&M. LSU's secondary was a mess versus Georgia, and big plays were to be had in the Alabama game.
Alabama did not have a shutdown cornerback this season. Most educated Alabama fans would admit that Belue would be a #2 corner at best in previous seasons.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:56 am to BlackCloud
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WE LOST ?
1st off, I don't play on the team, so I wouldn't use that word.
Secondly, look at my team logo. Why would I identify with the GUMPS?
War Damn Eagle!
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:01 am to randomways
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This is the part I don't understand, actually. Why are we crediting Lester rather than Chavis? Miles is hardly a defensive-oriented coach. Without Chavis, or somebody equivalent, he'd still field decent defenses based on Louisiana talent alone, but it's highly unlikely he wins any of the games cited in this thread, at least not via the defense.
Yes, give credit to the proper coaches.
Miles would be nothing without Chavis.
The defenses lead the way from 2009-2012 while LSU was playing with a shaky or subpar offense.
You bring up an interesting point, i.e. that Miles isn't a defensive genius. He certainly isn't an offensive genius either. So, what's his coaching acumen?
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:10 am to MrsGarrison
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So, what's his coaching acumen?
Securing Victory! At a higher rate than any other coach in the country since he has been at LSU.
What a dope eh?
Not every college team can be blessed with a genius head coach like goofy-arse Gus.
Poor Ol' Les will have to get by recruiting well and hiring great coaches and letting them do their job.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:10 am to MrsGarrison
There isn't a single successful coach who didn't surround himself with a great staff.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:15 am to FourThreeForty
I am starting to think that we could seriously benefit from running a defense like LSU's. I feel like we have enough talent. The idea of A'Shawn Robinsion, Josh Frazier, D Hand, Jon Allen, Rashaan Evans, Christian Miller, and R Foster as a front 7 two years from now is just 
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:16 am to Irons Puppet
Good point.
eta but only Bama benefits from scheduling
eta but only Bama benefits from scheduling
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 8:17 am
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:18 am to MrsGarrison
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what's his coaching acumen?
He wins games? That's all that matters. If a coach is winning games with the consistency that Miles has at LSU in the toughest division in the toughest conference in college football, I don't care if he's not a mastermind on either side of the ball.
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