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re: Bama versus Clemson

Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:35 am to
Posted by Tillman
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Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:35 am to
again,, write this down and memorize it, Gallman was knocked out of the game early in te NC State. your dujb premise is Clemson was at full strength. there were also 4 tunorvers, so Clemson overcame a lot to win that game. NC state has a solid defense and a very good RB. you probably can't name one player on their team includign the RB but you act like they are a cupcake.

The troy game was the 2nd game of the season and they are undefeated since then. they could probably win the SEC east this year and could score on teams like Ark and Ole miss.

to me, Alabama did not look good last week but you talking about the f--- Troy game for Clemson. try to live in the present

you alabama brown nosers were talking about Clemson's 3 point win over Lville last year as reason Clemson couldn't play with bama. what happened in a game during the season has nothing to do with can Clemson beat Alabama in the playoffs.
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 10:41 am
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:45 am to
meant to point out Troy scored a TD with 44 seconds left in the game, just to pull within 6. it is weird that people think Troy was on verge of winning the game.

Clemson scored 30 in the game.
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 10:46 am
Posted by silverstreak02
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2013
970 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

If I'm being fair, I think it is probably a conscious decision to not run Watson as much either to protect him for the Playoffs or NFL. His run ability opened up everything and with out that the Offense just isn't clicking as well.



I think you're right; they want to preserve his legs and health so he doesn't take unnecessary hits before the big games come along. Of course, if they slip up and lose, it won't really matter.
Posted by Roscoe
Member since Sep 2007
2913 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:37 pm to
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meant to point out Troy scored a TD with 44 seconds left in the game, just to pull within 6. it is weird that people think Troy was on verge of winning the game.


Didn't Clemson score with under a minute left or else its Bama 45 Clemson 33?
Posted by Gustave
Member since Nov 2015
3389 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:52 pm to
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Didn't Clemson score with under a minute left or else its Bama 45 Clemson 33?


Backdoor Cover.

At the end of the game I was saying I hope they never seen Watson again. Its gonna fricking happen.
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 1:54 pm
Posted by silverstreak02
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2013
970 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 1:55 pm to
Don't engage people who aren't willing to have an adult conversation about this.

Do I think Clemson would beat Alabama? I don't know, honestly. I really don't, because with the exception of the Syracuse game, they've been unable to put together four quarters of championship-level football. We've only seen it in spurts, and that won't be good enough to beat a team like Alabama, Michigan, Washington, or anyone else in the playoff.

Having said that, I do think they can play with them, and last season's game is proof of that. A lot of people don't seem to think the defense is as good as last year's, but I'd take the 2016 group over last year's bunch, especially with their ability to rush the passer to take pressure off the linebackers in coverage, which is a weakness with Venables' defensive scheme.
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 2:07 pm to
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A lot of people don't seem to think the defense is as good as last year's, but I'd take the 2016 group over last year's bunch, especially with their ability to rush the passer to take pressure off the linebackers in coverage, which is a weakness with Venables' defensive scheme.


I'd agree with this. This year's defense is good. Dexter Lawrence is a freaking stud.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19068 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 2:22 pm to
I'd rather see Alabama and Michigan.
Posted by WRUnodoubt
Merica
Member since Oct 2016
171 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 2:58 pm to
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You really believe this garbage?


I don't know, I'm not a psychic. Going to look like one if we win on a game winning drive. Hurts will have trouble, I can tell you that, Watson is still going to have to play out of his mind for us to win. It will probably come down to which team has more players focused on the draft instead of the game. No one outside of Bama is arguing that Clemson has not had a harder schedule up to this point. After all the discussion Michigan might end up knocking us both out. You never know with Harbaugh, never want to fight a crazy person.
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 3:00 pm
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16995 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 3:15 pm to
Silver streak, I have enjoyed your level headed posts. My .10 cents on the game would be this. D Watson is a game changer he always is. He played great against us in the natty. From what I've seen I think it would depend on our defense getting to him more often, they are fast and big on the DL and would likely shut down the run for the most part. Watson is a great passer and would do damage there. Our Offense has times of great mixed with bad. I think you guys could absolutely beat us. You only get to play once so it would depend on to many factors. You guys again are an outstanding team.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 4:06 pm to
didn't Alabama win because it was much better on special teams.

are you counting catching an onside kick before it hits the ground AND gettign a kick return TD if play Clemson again?
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 4:07 pm
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 4:08 pm to
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Don't engage people who aren't willing to have an adult conversation about this.



by adult conversation, you mean brown nose Alabama like you do. you on here seeking validation from Bama fans I guess.

you got this narrative about not putting together 4 quarters of football. the BC game was 58-10 or something. it is like you think the team has to be perfect in these games or the win doesn't count. it is so stupid.

alabama just won 10-0 against LSU but you think Clemson probably can't beat them despite a much better offense than LSU.
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 4:10 pm
Posted by silverstreak02
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2013
970 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 4:14 pm to
I couldn't care less what Alabama fans think. But if you want to sit here and compare playing Alabama to playing Boston College, you've got another thing coming.

We're talking about a team that's won 1 ACC game in 2 years. Compared to a team that's won 4 national championships since 2009. If you think they're remotely close, I don't know what to tell you.

You're also conveniently forgetting that Alabama's performance against LSU was on the road against a team playing for their new coach and with their hopes and dreams (albeit a longshot) on the line.

The Tide steamrolled USC, Tennessee, and dominated Texas A&M and have looked as impressive as anyone in the country this season.

You want to say Clemson's got the mark of a champion by winning these close games, but you only see it one way. The real world doesn't work like that, my friend.

I have as much faith in my Tigers as I have ever had, but let's not compare Alabama to freaking Boston College, bud
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 4:17 pm to
Tenn has a ton of injuries on defense, they just lost to SC. they got lucky to beat a bad UGA team. Tenn's best wins are over Florida which can't score, and Virginia Tech, which got beat by Cuse. why do you think they are an amazing team?

how is that good win for Alabama. USC"s defense is terrible, and they weren't playing the current QB who looks pretty good when they played Bama. texas AM would not beat Clemson.

you said Clemson had not put together 4 good quarers of football. They beatdown BC, Syaracuse (a team that had their way with Va Tech), and SC state. your narrative isn't correct. they have put together 4 quarters of football.

i never compared BC to Alabama, 'bud'.

i don't htink Alabama has played a tough schedule. what team on their schedule would Clemson lose to.

Gallman was out of the game in the NC State game, you act like that doesn't make a difference. plus they had 4 turnovers. i think it is impressive Clemson won that game. I think it is impressive they had 5 turnovers against Lville , who had 99 snaps on offense, and CU stil held them to 36 points. most teams in country could not do that, if any. it is not like every game the team is going to have 4 or 5 turnovers but that must your dumb premise.

i'm not an 'adult' if i don't agree with you on something sports related, 'bud'? lol
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 4:27 pm
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 4:26 pm to
Tillman you have a special type of blinder on. In the same post you use beating teams like BC and SC freaking State as an example of Clemson playing good football, missing the point that my original claim was CFP level football, and dismiss Alabama's win over UT?

#2 no one said anything prior to this claiming that Clemson would lose to anyone that Bama has beaten. The premise was simply this:

If you look at both teams as a whole from the Championship game last year to now, one team (Bama) looks to be on par or slightly better than they were then. The other (Clemson) does not.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 4:29 pm to
the statement was made Clemson has not 'played 4 quarterss of good football'. I'm pointing out it is not true. how many teams are destroyign Cuse and BC the way Clemson did? Your premise is every team can do it but how many teams have CLemson's offense?

Clemson looks much better this year on special teams, which is why they lost to Bama last year. your analysis is so wrong. i don't see any difference b/t resutls last year and this year. Clemson had close games with ND, FSU and some other teams last year. it isn't goign to blowout every year, and again, most of your argument is based on the NC State and Troy games which I've already nuked.

do you understand Tenn has a ton of injuries on defense? What is Tenn's most impressive win? Tenn might not even win their division and that sin't a good division this year.

in the Georgia Tech game this year, Clemson only had 7 snaps on offense in the 3rd quarter, and in the 4th quarter the coaches had conservative calls b/c they had a big lead. so if you focus solely on scoreboard without looking at the details of the game, it looks like that Clemson was less impressive than they were.
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 4:36 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30227 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

I'd rather see Alabama and Michigan.


I'd love to see Saban/Harbaugh
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 4:35 pm to
by nuked you mean saying things like this

quote:

meant to point out Troy scored a TD with 44 seconds left in the game, just to pull within 6. it is weird that people think Troy was on verge of winning the game.



Scoreboard at end of 1Q: Clemson 3- Troy 3
Scoreboard at end of 2Q: Clemson 13 Troy 10
Scoreboard at end of 3Q: Clemson 13 Troy 10

Oh buy Wayne Gallman wasn't in the game

He had one less carry that game than he did against Syracuse. Are you saying he is more necessary against non power 5 opponents?
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 4:40 pm to
Clemson was up 27-10 in the Troy game at one point.

one of Troy's touchdowns came ona drive where Clemson had two pass interfences penalties on 3rd and long, and then another penalty close to the goal line.

as i've pointed out , Troy scored its last TD with 44 seconds left. i care more about the clock than the score.

Troy is undefeated since that game. your premise is they are a cupcake.

just the fact you keep talking about the Troy game indicates you don't have an argument. that was the 2nd game of the season. teams improve.
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 4:41 pm
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 4:42 pm to
oh, I see why you think Tenn is super awesome. SC beat them. lol

why am i even talking to a gamecock fan, you are dying to talk down Clemson b/c Clemson winning it all is a nightmare for you. lol
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 4:44 pm
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