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re: Bama versus Clemson

Posted on 11/10/16 at 6:38 pm to
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 11/10/16 at 6:38 pm to
He won't be pressured.
Posted by sunseeker
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/10/16 at 6:43 pm to
Well the game is gonna happen in January so we shall see.
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
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Posted on 11/10/16 at 8:11 pm to
They will roll Clemson this year they don't have Shaq Lawson anymore and you can run on them


Michigan and Louisville are the teams I I don't think Baja matches up well against. Michigan will make you pass the ball and they may right have the best secondary in the country.


Louisville is Johnny football on high, PCP, steriods, with a better defense. Louisville is the only team I think can realistically put up 40 on Baja.

Bama should want Washington in the first round and Clemson in the title
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 11/10/16 at 8:16 pm to
Bama 31
Dabo 17
Posted by WRUnodoubt
Merica
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 11/10/16 at 9:48 pm to
Our D line is better this year than it was last year. Lawson only played a handful of snaps before he came out against Bama. We are going to hit Hurts hard and shut down the run. Then we are going to put our tall receiving corps in for the game winning drive to rip the Bama and Saban lovers hearts out. I don't see Hurts getting to the end of the 3rd quarter. If we can get Bateman in the game it's going to be ugly. LSU has talent on D but Clemson has talent plus the nations best DC plus the best QB. The state of Bama better be prepared for a L beforehand so no one gets shot afterwards. DH was your entire team last year and now he is gone, down field passing has fallen off. Bama fans just have confidence from playing an overrated schedule. A+M and LSU were all smoke and mirrors. Auburn game will come down to the 4th quarter. Will be the only significant win on the season for Bama. Bama is good, just overrated this year. They deserve to be until they lose to AU or Clemson.
Posted by Che Boludo
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Posted on 11/10/16 at 11:18 pm to
I'd love to see a semifinal Clemson-Bama game. World of respect for Dabo, Venables, Watson's athleticism and leadership, and the pride/faithfulness of the Clemson fans... BUT, give CNS 3-4 weeks to prepare for a single team (learning from CFP yr 1, where he admittedly stretched the staff and players in preparing for all scenarios vs. The one directly in front of them) and it's lights out with the talent on this team, the coaching and analyst staffs.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
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Posted on 11/11/16 at 6:54 am to
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Bama fans just have confidence from playing an overrated schedule. A+M and LSU were all smoke and mirrors.


Holy full retard hell, Batman!! A TATER fan calling an SEC West schedule and two of its teams smoke and mirrors?!?!

As a trauma nurse, I suggest you call 911 immediately to have those TIA's you're experiencing treated. They are VERY obviously affecting your memory bc you forgot y'all are in the ACC..the undisputed, universal leaders of ALL things smoke and mirrors.

If you weren't a tater, I'd swear you are trying harder than hell to be stupid..but since you are a tater, we all know that it isn't that you are trying at all. Your unmatched stupidity is absolutely, authenticly the real deal.
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 7:13 am
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 11/11/16 at 7:00 am to
As a Gamecock fan, I will try to take all level of homerism/Clemsux hate out of this. I work with a couple of Clemson fans in my office, we are actually able to have non-confrontational football debate and they would be the first to tell you the following:

1) Talent wise, Clemson def has the tools to compete

however,

2) They have also yet to string 4 quarters of CFP level football together this season.

Can they get it together and peak at the right time? Sure that is possible. But they looked a hell of a lot stronger and more consistent over the course of last year than they have this year. I think, and again it has been confirmed by said Clemson fans, that dialing back the amount of time that Watson scrambles has impacted offensive production.
Posted by phaz
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:56 am to
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WRUnodoubt


Jesus, you really believe this garbage?
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:11 am to
the ND game was in a monsoon, and Clemson just played conservative after getting up 20 points or so.

SC only scored a touchdown with 1 second left to get within 5. that did them no good. your focus on 5 point difference is so dumb. Clemson had 3 bad turnovers in that game too and still won comfortably.

Lville last year was only close b/c of a 4th quarter punt or kick return TD by Lville.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:14 am to
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2) They have also yet to string 4 quarters of CFP level football together this season.

Can they get it together and peak at the right time? Sure that is possible. But they looked a hell of a lot stronger and more consistent over the course of last year than they have this year. I think, and again it has been confirmed by said Clemson fans, that dialing back the amount of time that Watson scrambles has impacted offensive production.


that makes no sense. Clemson beatdown BC and Syracuse, SC state. beat Louisville despite 5 turnovers and they had 99 snaps on offense.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:17 am to
Alabama is a 1-D team on offense, and they haven't faced a good QB this year unless you count Chad Kelly.

not sure where you getting Clemson can't stop the run, it stopped AUburn's run, Auburn scored 13 points at home.
Posted by silverstreak02
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2013
970 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:21 am to
Anyone that thinks either side would just get their doors blown off probably doesn't watch much college football.

Alabama's size and speed is the best in the country, and of those left in the hunt, I think Clemson matches up best. I'm looking at Michigan, Washington, and Clemson, as all three still control their own destiny. Ohio State would be an interesting game, but I think much like Clemson, their offensive line would struggle to protect the QB in obvious passing situations.

Clemson has the experience of being in the playoff should they get there, and the starters have the experience of handling the media junk and pressure that comes with getting to the big game. Alabama does as well, but again, the conversation is who can beat Bama, not who can beat Clemson.

Alabama's weakness, almost laughable when you actually say a weakness with that group, has been the secondary. Teams with big receivers have given them troubles (that's not exclusive to the Tide, but when you have guys like Mike Williams or Deon Cain who can go up and get contested throws, you've got a shot).

Clemson's certainly had their fair share of close calls: Troy and NC State come to mind, and certainly their showing against Florida State in the second half. But much like Alabama and how people seem to predict them to fall, they find a way to win these games. I'm old enough to remember when finding a way to win your games was a compliment, now we talk about good losses (looking at you, Louisville).
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:23 am to
nc state game is easy win if Gallman had not be knocked out. obviously there were 4 bad turnovers. NC state's offense only scored 1 TD in the game.

nobody ever mentions Gallman wasn't in the game. he's kind of important to our offense
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 10:24 am
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:25 am to
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Well the game is gonna happen in January so we shall see.


I have never seen a more bone smoking stroking thread in the history of this forum than this one.

What a bunch of fricktards.

Play the regular season - quit wasting your time and quit taking up space on this board while you fricktards suck each other off over something that is not even going to happen.
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:26 am to
I'm not saying Clemson is a bad team but...

quote:

Clemson beatdown BC and Syracuse, SC state.


does nothing to disprove

quote:

They have also yet to string 4 quarters of CFP level football


Yes you beat Louisville, FSU, and Auburn(Discounting this one, they are clearly better than they were game one but still you won). There have also been nail biters with NC State and TROY for God's sake kept it to 10-13 going into the 4th quarter. Again, not saying Clemson is a bad team, quite good actually, just saying that the Clemson team that kept it close with Bama last year played noticeably better than what we've seen thus far this year, mainly on offense.
Posted by silverstreak02
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2013
970 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:30 am to
I don't disagree entirely. The margin of victory this season compared to last is indicative of that.

It's so weird to watch, too, because the offensive production and defensive production are almost identical to last season, but they're playing in much tighter games in 2016.

I think a large part of it is the expectations set, especially for Watson, after going crazy against Alabama and Oklahoma in the playoff. That, and Lamar Jackson putting up video game numbers in the same conference certainly skews perception against Deshaun.
Posted by Roscoe
Member since Sep 2007
2913 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:30 am to
quote:

They have also yet to string 4 quarters of CFP level football


I think this is a fair statement. But everyone should remember OSU from a few years ago. They hadn't put together 4 good quarters of football until the last two weeks of the regular season and then their team peaked at the right time.

Clemson has not put together 4 great quarters of ball (well, other than Syracuse), but if they do, they would be peaking at the right time, the time that counts, and they would be capable of beating anyone, including BAMA for it all.

All that said, Clemson really needs to keep Watson healthy. If he's less than 100% and/or doesn't play this weekend, they could easily lose to Pitt.
Posted by silverstreak02
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2013
970 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:32 am to
I don't know about that; Even if Scheussler sees most of the action, I think they take care of Pitt's porous pass defense rather easily. They're 126th in the country against the pass.

That's a recipe for disaster with Clemson's talent at receiver
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:33 am to
If I'm being fair, I think it is probably a conscious decision to not run Watson as much either to protect him for the Playoffs or NFL. His run ability opened up everything and with out that the Offense just isn't clicking as well.
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