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re: Bama or LSU? Which Team Wins The West Next Year?

Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:09 am to
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:09 am to
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Who had the better game January 9th?


Did Chris Jones have Jordan Jefferson throwing him the ball?
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:10 am to
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Wow everything I stated went in one ear and out the other. I think Chris Jones will have the better season and is better than OBJ because he is now a starter, has a 2 year starting QB, and please answer this question: Who had the better game January 9th?





Dude go back to Mobile and find the leprechaun.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:10 am to
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Did Chris Jones have Jordan Jefferson throwing him the ball?



I don't even think that guy played in the game.
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9594 posts
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:11 am to
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Ok explain this. Bama is better at WR, because everyone is more experienced, yet LSU is the same at RB, where our group of only freshman and sophmores and are all back with obviously more experience. And at WR, I wouldn't discount Landry. He should have a good season now that we have an actual QB. He had I think 8 catches in the spring game(yes, I know spring game. doesn't really matter)



Alabama has more returning contributors and a better WR class. OBJ, Landry, Shepard, and whoever else is a solid group dont get me wrong. I said it could change.
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Ok explain this. Bama is better at WR, because everyone is more experienced, yet LSU is the same at RB, where our group of only freshman and sophmores and are all back with obviously more experience. And at WR, I wouldn't discount Landry. He should have a good season now that we have an actual QB. He had I think 8 catches in the spring game(yes, I know spring game. doesn't really matter)



Alabama has more returning contributors and a better WR class. OBJ, Landry, Shepard, and whoever else is a solid group dont get me wrong. I said it could change.

Let me rephrase my question. How can you can say Bama is improved at WR because everyone is more experienced. But LSU is the same at RB when we didn't lose anyone, and all of our freshman and sophmore RB's obviously have more experience too. You can't have that both ways
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45151 posts
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:12 am to
Of course you think a guy with 3 catches on the season is better than OBJ, you're an Alabama fan. And what part of a non-existent pass attack on January 9th can't you get through your little gump head? Please enlighten me on what Jones did so spectacular on January 9th. How many catches, tackles, etc.?
Posted by cajunsack
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2011
1950 posts
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:12 am to
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(Downgrade) Same on RB


How could we possibly be worse at Running back when we didnt lose a single guy from last year and we added Jeremy Hill (dude is a monster)? Please explain that one


Dude I said the same on RB. Slightly improved with experience. There happy? How in the frick do you expect 5 RBs to get significant carries a game? Ware: 10 carries, Ford: 10 carries, Hilliard: 10 carries, Blue: 10 carries, Hill:??? What happened to this fricking Air Raid offense that Mettsiah was bringing? Better question how many plays is your offense going to run with 40 carries a game and Metsiah getting atleast 25 passes a game.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45151 posts
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:15 am to
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How in the frick do you expect 5 RBs to get significant carries a game? Ware: 10 carries, Ford: 10 carries, Hilliard: 10 carries, Blue: 10 carries, Hill:??? What happened to this fricking Air Raid offense that Mettsiah was bringing?


Wanna know how I know you don't know shite about football? We went 13-0 and won the SEC with that stable of running backs.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:15 am to
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Dude I said the same on RB. Slightly improved with experience. There happy? How in the frick do you expect 5 RBs to get significant carries a game?


Why do they need significant carries a game to be a good unit? We ran for more yards than Bama did last year, albeit, with less carries.

And let's not act like injury prone Lacy is going to be richardson.

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Better question how many plays is your offense going to run with 40 carries a game and Metsiah getting atleast 25 passes a game.




As long as we win, I don't give a frick if we run the ball on every fricking down.
Posted by cajunsack
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2011
1950 posts
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:15 am to
Chris Jones subject: Done arguing, he will have the better season in my opinion and everyone's opinions are opinions. We will just see. He had more return yards than anyone did the entire season against LSU. That is very impressive IMO with the special teams you had.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:17 am to
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Chris Jones subject: Done arguing, he will have the better season in my opinion and everyone's opinions are opinions. We will just see.


Not when one has done close to nothing and the other was a freshman all conference player as a true freshman.

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He had more return yards than anyone did the entire season against LSU.


Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45151 posts
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:17 am to
What did he do on January 9th? How many catches? I can't seem to find out.

Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31944 posts
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:18 am to
well I mean if we run it 40 times a game and Mettenberger also throws it 25 times a game lets be honest, we are going to fricking murder everyone
This post was edited on 5/1/12 at 12:19 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:19 am to
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Chris Jones did not start last year. Go back and watch the National title game and then get back to me on who performed when it mattered.


Good god young n. you're only making the LSU's poster case for them. He couldn't start for your shitty wr corp?
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:20 am to
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Better question how many plays is your offense going to run with 40 carries a game and Metsiah getting atleast 25 passes a game.


Right. Let's assume 70 O play average a game. Then assume a 45/55 pass/run ratio (hopefully). That's about 30 throws/40 rushes. Supposedly a RB was going to get some receiver time but I didn't see that in spring game. With Odell, Jarvis and Russell...it's doubtful. I have a feeling the way it will work out is whoever the hot back(s) is/are will get most time, if he cools off someone else will get a shot.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:21 am to
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Would you have said Claiborne was better than Kirkpatrick going into 2011? I


Yes
Posted by cajunsack
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2011
1950 posts
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:21 am to
Where was that running game against Alabama? The whole point of this thread is to prove your point about how and why LSU is going to beat Alabama and vise versa. Where was this stable of running backs on NOV 5th and JAN 9th? Ford was the only productive back first game because of the option, but the best back 2nd game was Hilliard with like 15 yards. Saying that I still said yall had the better RB group good god. Please tell me how these backs will do any better against Bama this time. You are not making many great points on why this LSU team is better than last years
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9594 posts
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:22 am to
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Not when one has done close to nothing and the other was a freshman all conference player as a true freshman.

It's OK, by his standards all there players improve. Ours get no better, and we also never have anyone to replace a departing player. My favorite though had to be the guy who in one post said one of our guys was unproven, but then went on to list Collins.
And that freshman all-SEC, I think he is going to still be the second most productive WR on the team behind J. Landry.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45151 posts
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:22 am to
To make sure we are talking about the same Jones who's bio I have pulled up on Alabama's roster's page, and for future reference...
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2011 (FRESHMAN): Christion Jones is one of the true freshman making an impact for Alabama in 2011 ... developed a niche at wide receiver ... also a backup punt returner ... has three catches for 49 yards ... returned two punts for 18 yards ... has played in all 12 games. Kent State: Hauled in his first career catch with an eight-yard grab against the Golden Flashes ... also returned a punt 18 yards while making one solo tackle on special teams. Penn State: Saw his first action on the road as a reserve wide receiver. North Texas: Made his most significant contribution to date with two receptions for 41 yards, including a 30 yard-catch that he took inside the 5-yard line ... returned one punt for no gain.


Yeah he's definitely better than the guy with this shitty resume
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Ranks second on the team in receptions with 36 and receiving yards with 437 ... Played in all 13 games and made eight starts at receiver ... Also served as a reserve punt and kickoff returner ... Became the first Tiger since Bennie Brazell in 2005 to have back-to-back games with 50-plus yard receiving TDs (52-yarder at West Virginia, 51-yarder vs. Kentucky) ... Turned in one of the most electrifying plays of the season with a 51-yard TD reception that saw him break tackles and weave his way across the field to the endzone against Kentucky ... Finished with three catches for 75 yards and one TD against Kentucky ... Caught his first career receiving touchdown on a 52-yard catch and run at West Virginia and finished the game with two receptions for 82 yards and a TD ... Named the SEC Freshman of the Week after he hauled in eight receptions for 61 yards at Mississippi State and became the first LSU freshman wide receiver to record at least eight catches in a game since Michael Clayton had eight against Illinois in the Sugar Bowl on Jan. 1, 2002 ... Tied for the team lead in catches with five for 40 yards against Northwestern State in his first career start ... Made his LSU debut against Oregon and caught two passes for 10 yards
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Posted by ALcapone
Member since Nov 2010
3828 posts
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:22 am to
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I don't even think that guy played in the game.


yeah he came in and returned punts after maze went down. He actually gained a few yards on one of them, which was a positive because all season LSU didnt give up shite on punt returns, until maze broke one.

Chris Jones is an interesting talent for Bama. He impressed early, but he wasnt really big enough to be an effective blocker as a true freshman. He weighed about 160, i'd guess. He's put on some muscle this and performed well in the spring. A lot of Bama fans are comparing him to Freddie Millons because of their similar running styles.

I think the comparison to OBJ is not too far off, but at this point you have to give the advantage to OBJ because he has done more and showed more in his freshman campaign. I've said before that i think OBJ is a guy who brings electricity to the LSU offense every time he touches the ball, maybe moreso than anyone else on their offense last year. I dont think he will have much trouble moving into the 1 WR spot, but it will be an adjustment for him. IMO, OBJ benefited greatly from the style of offense that LSU ran. OBJ was most effective when J.Lee was playing QB. Under Lee, LSU was a power running team that loved to bomb it over the top to Randle. Opposing defenses would come up to stop the power run and keep safety help over the top on Randle. Teams didnt really gameplan much for OBJ and he was able to take advantage of that. There will be a little adjustment this year, but I think OBJ will be a very good player for LSU again this year.
Posted by 228Tiger
Harrison County
Member since Feb 2012
12112 posts
Posted on 5/1/12 at 12:23 am to
Because you won't have the convenience of knowing that we can't throw the football. Mett will sling it




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