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re: Bama/LSU defense vs JFF

Posted on 11/24/13 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 12:47 pm to
Yep. Bama's weakness is on the outside while LSU's is up the middle. LSU's strength plays into A&M's strength whereas LSU's weakness cost them against Alabama.
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 12:49 pm to
Wrong. Evans still goes ham IMO. Kirkpatrick ain't there any more.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 12:50 pm to
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(i.e. dirty)


right, it was 34-10 only because LSU was dirty

Posted by Gradual_Stroke
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 12:51 pm to
I didn't say that was the only reason.
Posted by AdamDeMamp
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 12:51 pm to
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Yep. Bama's weakness is on the outside while LSU's is up the middle. LSU's strength plays into A&M's strength whereas LSU's weakness cost them against Alabama.


I'd say that's as accurate of a statement as you can make comparing the two.

We need a VERY good MLB which we've had the past few years with Sheppard and Minter to be an elite defense. We have Welter this year lol
Posted by troywew
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 12:52 pm to
JFF had a bad game, can't a man have a bad game without that particular opponent being the GOAT defense?
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 12:53 pm to
There's a difference between having a bad game and being shook before the end of the first quarter.
Posted by AdamDeMamp
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 12:54 pm to
Scoring no less than 41 all year and then scoring 10 is not just an off night.
Posted by Suck Out West
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 12:54 pm to
I think it's a combination of the scheme, how the LSU CBs just stepped up, and that the Bama defense in September is not the same as the one taking the field now.

Also, Bama failed to take advantage of their superiority on the LOS on offense to prevent a shoot out while LSU did the opposite. Bama is more than capable of replicating that type of asswhipping to aTm but they got lured into a shoot out.
Posted by CrippleCreek
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 12:55 pm to
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JFF had a bad game, can't a man have a bad game without that particular opponent being the GOAT defense?




Chavis has made a habit of bitch-slapping these offenses. I don't think its really up for debate that he's the best in the business at stopping them.

Other than the Cam year, Chavis has smoked Gus, Sumlin, Chip Kelly, and Dana Holgerson in his time at LSU.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 1:04 pm to
LSU has recruited lighter but faster DEs. Matches up with A&Ms offense pretty well. Didn't let JM get to the outside, play tight coverage, and force JM to run up the middle right into our LBs.

Of course A&M never running the ball with an actual RB helps too
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 1:08 pm to
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JFF had a bad game, can't a man have a bad game without that particular opponent being the GOAT defense?

But Johnny "had a bad game" against LSU last year too. So it seems he's always "off" against LSU, but against every other team he's the best QB to ever play college ball.
This post was edited on 11/24/13 at 1:09 pm
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 1:08 pm to
It wasn't a bad game for Manziel. It was LSU punking him for 60 minutes.
Posted by Turkey_Creek_Tiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 1:09 pm to
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LSU is more physical (i.e. dirty)


are your jimmies rustled?
Posted by white beans
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 1:09 pm to
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Of course A&M never running the ball with an actual RB helps too


God, this.

Was textbook tamu arrogance and stupidity.
Posted by Turkey_Creek_Tiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 1:10 pm to
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It wasn't a bad game for Manziel. It was LSU punking him for 60 minutes.


16/42

that is all
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 1:10 pm to
Bama's overall defense is better this year. We have players that are better at certain positions. Like Robinson @ CB. Manziel made it easy by focusing too much on Evans. Evans is physical and I won't say he intimidates other CBs, but they're scared to get too physical back bc 90% of the time it gets called on the CB. When Robinson got physical back, and the refs were letting them play, it kind of nullified Evans.

Also, y'all's linebackers are better and although it was a joke, someone mentioned that welter was too slow to get juked therefore he was never really out if position when in pursuit.

We didn't get too much pass rush from out DL bc chavis made them play contain. It isn't a glorious role but it's how to stop a player like manziel.
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Chavis has made a habit of bitch-slapping these offenses. I don't think its really up for debate that he's the best in the business at stopping them.

Other than the Cam year, Chavis has smoked Gus, Sumlin, Chip Kelly, and Dana Holgerson in his time at LSU.

This.

The Chavis defense at LSU, in one way or another, limits or shuts down these fast-paced, spread offenses.
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
3945 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 1:12 pm to
Just keep JFF in front of you and in the middle of the field.
Posted by troywew
Member since Nov 2010
2510 posts
Posted on 11/24/13 at 1:16 pm to
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Chavis has made a habit of bitch-slapping these offenses


I stand corrected, JFF was apparently on his very best and got beat by GOAT defense.
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