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re: Bama joins elite "20-title Club" (LSU and Tennessee are next...far, far behind)

Posted on 1/12/16 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 7:46 pm to
Pre poll Rose Bowl titles are 100% legit and are not going away. You're going to have to deal with it. Better yet, do some historical research to try and disprove it. You'll understand why we should claim them if you're being honest
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31793 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:19 pm to
I claim 11. The Ivy League claims titles from the days when no one but the Ivy League even played the fricking game.
Posted by TechDawgs
Dallas via Atlanta
Member since Oct 2014
387 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:31 pm to
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the actual NCAA records book.


Present them.

Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17886 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:42 pm to
LSU has precisely 47 national titles.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25195 posts
Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:44 pm to
LSU and Arkansas have no shortage of national titles to boast about. Nor does Florida for that matter.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/12/16 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35482 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:11 am to
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Not that most of these aren't ridiculous, but most of Princeton and Yale's came from a time when only 3 schools played football and there were only 2 games

The most surprising thing about that list is that Rutgers still doesn't have one.
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
Back Home now
Member since Sep 2006
61108 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:12 am to
So bama just won number 20?


Dang.
Posted by AlabamaAlum07
Member since Jun 2014
2027 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 4:34 am to
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Present them.

LINK
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 5:16 am to
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Teams that have won multiple national championships from "major selectors," as recognized by the NCAA itself:


There are a couple things wrong with this sentence:

1) The NCAA doesn't recognize national champions for FBS football.

2) There were no "major selectors" until the 1930s -- anything before that was either (a) informal or (b) retrospective or (c) both.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33939 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 5:17 am to
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re poll Rose Bowl titles are 100% legit and are not going away.


Wrong. The Rose Bowl was not a title game. This is a myth perpetuated by Alabama fans.
Posted by UnAnon
Breaux Bridge
Member since Sep 2013
6433 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:07 am to
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>Princeton, 28
>Yale, 27
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:18 am to
Auburn decided not to claim 5. Bama has more than others in the SEC, but uses strange math
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38782 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:24 am to
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I have nothing better to do today than make this movement happen


Young's Men Gymnastic's Club New Orleans were tougher than people thought
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:25 am to
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Not that most of these aren't ridiculous, but most of Princeton and Yale's came from a time when only 3 schools played football and there were only 2 games


quote:

The most surprising thing about that list is that Rutgers still doesn't have one.



I think Princeton got one national title from beating Rutgers 6-4 in the very first college football game in 1869. Rutgers finished 2nd in the country, I guess, but I think they got screwed though because they played the toughest schedule in the country while Princeton played the weakest.
This post was edited on 1/13/16 at 7:27 am
Posted by nofear67
Houston
Member since Jan 2006
2285 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:34 am to
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Elite Football AND Elite Academic Institutions

Dude c'mon. There is absolutely nothing academically ELITE about Alabama.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:44 am to
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1) The NCAA doesn't recognize national champions for FBS football.

Obviously it does as the link in the post directly above yours attests. The NCAA doesn't AWARD national championship titles in football, there's a difference between recognizing a title and actually awarding a title.

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2) There were no "major selectors" until the 1930s

Yes there were. There were many organizations awarding titles, some more prestigious than others. Those are the ones acknowledged by the NCAA and respective member institutions.

There were no major selectors that awarded LSU the title after the 1908 season, that's why the university only recognizes it as a regional title, "Champions of the South".
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15591 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:53 am to
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TheDude321
Bama joins elite "20-title Club" (LSU and Tennessee are next...far, far behind)
by TheDude321

Teams that have won multiple national championships from "major selectors," as recognized by the NCAA itself: Princeton, 28 Yale, 27 Notre Dame, 22 Alabama, 20 Oklahoma, 17 USC, 17 Michigan, 16 Ohio State, 16 Harvard, 12 Nebraska, 11 Pittsburgh, 11 Miami, 9 Texas, 9 Florida State, 8 LSU, 8 Minnesota, 7 Penn State, 7 Tennessee, 7





This includes like Billinglsey, Dunkel Index, FCA, and other associations and publications.

And actually we aren't that far behind. We're 15 in this ranking.
But even with our 3 recognized consensus NCs in 58,03, and '07, College Football Warehouse has LSU as the #10 program in CFB all-time.

We are #8 all-time nationally in bowl apps and 11th in # of victories. Not too shabby........

And as far as NCs in all sports, I believe Arkansas and LSU are 1-2 in SEC. And Bama is """""""""""""""""far, far behind """"""""""""""".
This post was edited on 1/13/16 at 8:55 am
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35482 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 10:47 am to
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I think Princeton got one national title from beating Rutgers 6-4 in the very first college football game in 1869. Rutgers finished 2nd in the country, I guess, but I think they got screwed though because they played the toughest schedule in the country while Princeton played the weakest.

Posted by TheRaid
Currently Living in South Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1304 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 3:35 pm to
It is a sign of a weak-minded person who has to pick on Princeton to make themselves feel taller.

Princeton's last national championship was in 1950, a year in which they had a Heisman winner as well.

Take note, that is well after the start of the poll era, and well after some of the national titles so revered by the Bammers and others. They also went undefeated in 1964 but by then they were in the Ivy League which has a rule against playing in the post season. So, by Bama's standards, Princeton has 29 national championships, and until Mark Ingram won the Heisman, it had more Heisman winners.

You are only proving you are a bunch of hypocrites.
This post was edited on 1/13/16 at 3:53 pm
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