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re: Bama is 10% less likely to be called for discretionary penalties
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:25 am to Chinese Bandit
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:25 am to Chinese Bandit
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No not a huge number...but when that one extra penalty isn't called on a hold for a touchdown....well...
Lol. He mad!
What day melt is this from 2011?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:25 am to Chinese Bandit
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No not a huge number...but when that one extra penalty isn't called on a hold for a touchdown....well...
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:27 am to Weagle25
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Weagle25
Here is the link to the actual research.
Here is the chart for the SEC
The bias is AGAINST the flagship team
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:27 am to DoubleDown
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Lol. He mad!
LOL...not mad at all...
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:27 am to Triple Daves
Haven't read the article yet, but if they are only looking at the numbers of penalties and not the film to see how many should have been called, then that is problem with this study. Some teams don't commit as many penalties as others, so obviously they wouldn't have as many penalties and rightfully so.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:28 am to Weagle25
Bama knows how to play without committing penalties 10% better than everyone else. Way to go SaBear
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:30 am to VU fan 43
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Haven't read the article yet, but if they are only looking at the numbers of penalties and not the film to see how many should have been called, then that is problem with this study.
Also where the ball is spotted, questionable turnovers, etc. that weren't factored in. The study just shows some bias...something we all knew already.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:33 am to StopRobot
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The bias is AGAINST the flagship team
The "protected flagship" column shows less likely on your graph...meaning less likely to be penalized. BIAS is against whoever they are playing.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:34 am to Weagle25
Is this the same media outlet that predicting Hillary to win the election in a landslide?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:34 am to Weagle25
Alabama is ranked 128 out of 128 teams of opponents being the least penalized.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:36 am to Chinese Bandit
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The "protected flagship" column shows less likely on your graph...meaning less likely to be penalized. BIAS is against whoever they are playing.
Incorrect. It means that if you are "protect and flagship" in the SEC, calls are less likely to favor you
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:37 am to Weagle25
Bama opponents have fewest penalties called against them than any of the SEC teams opponents do. If anything, in 2016 at least, Tide opponents are the ones getting benefit of discretionary penalties.
This Bama team is, I'm pretty sure, one of the most penalized teams in the conference this year.
This Bama team is, I'm pretty sure, one of the most penalized teams in the conference this year.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:38 am to VU fan 43
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Haven't read the article yet, but if they are only looking at the numbers of penalties and not the film to see how many should have been called, then that is problem with this study.
You would literally have to look at every play of every team with a neutral party. I suppose you could use sampling but the sample sizes would be too small.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:39 am to JustGetItRight
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Overfishing is a serious, serious problem worldwide.
You should be ashamed for depleting such a precious resource.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:42 am to stat19
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Is this the same media outlet that predicting Hillary to win the election in a landslide?
You might want to read the board before trying to discredit the source
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:43 am to bamasgot13
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such a HUGE number!
So out of 10 possible opportunities the "average" team gets called 10 times and Bama gets called 9 times.
Also, read the article. It talks about Flagship teams (of which, for whatever reason, it lists LSU & AU) are also less likely than other teams in the conference to get called for penalties.
But not as likely as the protected flagship schools. Aka contenders.
10% is huge btw. I'm surprised its that large.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:48 am to bmy
Can't believe they didn't called holding on Alabama for this.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:50 am to StopRobot
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Incorrect. It means that if you are "protect and flagship" in the SEC, calls are less likely to favor you
I hate to keep proving you wrong...
Here is the wording from your study
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Across all FBS games, the baseline for a non-flagship program is 46.37% probability of any call being discretionary. Being a protected flagship team lowers this probability to 41.40%. When the game is a Power 5 in-conference game (n=13,858), a situation guaranteed to have affiliated officials with both competing teams, the predictors change. Here, average teams can expect 45.14% probability, whereas protected non-flagship teams are actually called for more discretionary fouls (48.8% probability), consistent with Brymer et al.’s (2015) prior findings. However, protected flagship teams fare better than either other group, garnering 43.14% probability of a discretionary call. See Figure 2 below.
Now look at figure 2 in the study
If the probability leans towards less likely you fare better
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:54 am to Weagle25
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You might want to read the board before trying to discredit the source
If my question brought discredit to your source, imagine what I could do with a statement.
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