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re: Bama has only given up 100 yds or more to 11 rushers under Saban

Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:26 pm to
Yep, that's the bad plays. They haven't played with consistency this year, you won't find a Bama fan that will argue that. At times they maul a defense and blow holes wide open. At times they escort them into the backfield. If I'm being completely honest I'd expect it to play out something like this:

Reps won

Bama O line vs LSU D line
45% to 55%

LSU O line vs Bama D line
40% to 60%

I think we have the bigger advantage in the trenches, as good as the lsu offensive line is. Bama has 3 pretty special players that start up front defensively, and they roll them in wave after wave. There won't be tired legs in the 4th quarter
Posted by genro
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:26 pm to
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Yeah, actually watching the games and not relying only on numbers.
Like citing just Jalen Hurd's stats without regards to the emphasis on UT's passing game?
Posted by PepaSpray
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:26 pm to
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List of pretty good players. No doubt, I expect Bama's front 7 to be nasty.
Janet Jackson agrees.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:27 pm to
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Relying on one receiver does not make your passing game more dynamic.


Again, we have 2 wrs in the top 25 in yards and tds.tenn has 1

Our top 2 wrs have more tds and yards than Tenn's top 2 wrs.
You act like Dobbs and Tenn'Tenn's passing game is better than LSU'S when it's not.

There are statistics that show dobbs as the better qb and more of a threat through the air. If Harris had as many attempts as Dobbs he would have more yards.
Harris has a better qb rating
Better completion %
Better yards per attemp
Better td/iint ratio
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:27 pm to
link to where i did that?
Posted by genro
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:29 pm to
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Again, we have 2 wrs in the top 25 in yards and tds.tenn has 1 
Yeah.
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If Harris had as many attempts as Dobbs he would have more yards. 
Harris has a better qb rating 
Maybe. Doesn't always work that way
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:29 pm to
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I think we have the bigger advantage in the trenches, as good as the lsu offensive line is. Bama has 3 pretty special players that start up front defensively, and they roll them in wave after wave. There won't be tired legs in the 4th quarter



I don't worry about the OL holding up all game long. They are pretty deep. Plus they aren't the ones running all over the field like DL have to do pursuing plays. If I'm LSU I worry about getting the defense off the field because they are gassed and very bad in the 4th quarter. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see another 1 minute remaining game winning drive by Bama. Set up by a punt return allowed by LSUs absolutely horrible punt return defense (Ranked last in the country)
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 10:30 pm
Posted by genro
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:29 pm to
You didn't. That's what I was responding to originally.
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 10:30 pm
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:29 pm to
What were the YPC in those games by the running backs?

Alabama in 2012 had a much more balanced offense than lsu does today. For better or worse, we were pretty committed to a 50/50 game plan. That's not apples to apples
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:29 pm to
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We're not talking about efficiency, dumbass


Efficiency goes into being more of threat through the air.do you know anything about football?

You're not more of a passing threat of you aren't getting more passing yardage on the passes you throw.
you're not more of a passing threat of you're completely a lower % of passes.
you're not more of a threat if your td/int ratio is lower.

It's like I'm talking to a 9 year old.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:30 pm to
Maybe try to be better than the poster you're responding to next time. Like I do with you.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:32 pm to
Top 2 WRs. Just be real and say "only 2 WRs". The rest of the receiving corps has about 100 yards.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:33 pm to
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What were the YPC in those games by the running backs?

Western Kent -3.3
Ole miss-3.7
A&m- 3.9

It's not horrible but you'd expect better out of an oline that you're using as the measuring stick.
Posted by lsusteve1
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:33 pm to
12

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Posted by genro
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:33 pm to
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Efficiency goes into being more of threat through the air.do you know anything about football? 
Not necessarily. You can keep your qb in safer situations. A QB you ask more of will make more mistakes
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You're not more of a passing threat of you aren't getting more passing yardage on the passes you throw. 
you're not more of a passing threat of you're completely a lower % of passes. 
you're not more of a threat if your td/int ratio is lower. 

Take two extremes. Baylor throws for 600 yards a game, tons of TD's but also many INT's. Navy only throws the ball 10 times a game for 80 yards, few TD's, and no int's. Navy is much more efficient, but Baylor is a bigger passing threat

(I made those stats up as a hypo)
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 10:35 pm
Posted by redeye
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:34 pm to
McFadden was the first to do it. Also, Felix Jones only had half as many carries and still had 96 yards.
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:35 pm to
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Top 2 WRs. Just be real and say "only 2 WRs". The rest of the receiving corps has about 100 yards.


Not necessarily a bad thing.

See: Amari Cooper. Dude had 3x the receptions of the #2 receiver and 6x the receptions of the #3 receiver.

Odell Beckham Jr and Jarvis Landry had a similar workload compared to the other WRs at LSU. This group isn't in their league but they are still talented.
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 10:36 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:37 pm to
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Like citing just Jalen Hurd's stats without regards to the emphasis on UT's passing game


Their passing game wasn't successful.
13/22 171 1 td.

That's worse than what Harris did against on of the best secondaries in all of cfb(Florida)
Harris vs florida-13/19 202 2 tds.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:38 pm to
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Their passing game wasn't successful.
13/22 171 1 td.
And yet their running game was. We have a very good defensive front.

Coincidence?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:39 pm to
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Take two extremes. Baylor throws for 600 yards a game, tons of TD's but also many INT's. Navy only throws the ball 10 times a game for 80 yards, few TD's, and no int's. Navy is much more efficient, but Baylor is a bigger passing threat

(I made those stats up as a hypo)


So now you are literally making shite up to "prove" your point
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