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re: Bama has only given up 100 yds or more to 11 rushers under Saban

Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:14 pm to
400 more yards and 2 more TDs on 90 more attempts?
Posted by LelandSU
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:14 pm to
Why all the down votes for the OP? One of the better posts on the day. Keep the spazzing out and trolling for the troll threads. This was just an interesting stat and the OP's opinion thrown in.
Posted by misey94
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:15 pm to
Let's see. Harris has 2/3 of the yards in a little more than half the throws, and has 9 TDs to Dobbs' 11. Looks like quality over quantity to me.
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:15 pm to
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Meh. They're right up there but there isn't a 2012 Bama line in CFB this year. While they may be the best in college football, that isn't saying a whole lot this year. Again, good line, I think they lose the battle against the Bama Dline though. The Bama defensive line is comprised of better football players



From top to bottom.. absolutely true. Although LSUs pass blocking has been pretty exceptional. Alabama has a really really good defense.

Reverse the scenario though.. doesn't LSU have the same advantage against the Bama offense?
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:16 pm to
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would just argue that LSU has the more efficient passing game.



Wouldn't be a bad argument. I think it's predicated/reliant on the running game though. I have doubts that the passing game can be efficient/prolific if they have to play from behind and/or the running game is slowed down like it hasn't been yet

Just an opinion at this point because there's no examples at this point
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 10:17 pm
Posted by NorthTiger
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:16 pm to
LF rushes 24 times for 82 yds and LSU wins 24-17. Saban gets to still say his D has given up 100 yards to only 11 players.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:16 pm to
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said it was a much bigger part of the offense, which the numbers show. 



No its doesn't.

LSU's top 2 wrs have more yards yards and tds than Tenn top 2 wrs AND THEY HAVE PLAYED AN ENTIRE EXTRA GAME.
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:17 pm to
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Wouldn't be a bad argument. I think it's predicated/reliant on the running game though. I have doubts that the passing game can be efficient/prolific if they have to play from behind and/or the running game is slowed down like it hasn't been yet


I'd say the same thing about Bamas pass defense, for example. It's a team game overall

Fun stats:
Alabama is #1 (LSU is #2) in Long Rushing Plays Allowed.
Alabama is #56 in Long rushing Plays. LSU #8
Alabama is 112th in 3rd down conversions
Alabama is 17th in Opponents 3rd down conversions and 5th in Opponents 1st downs/game.
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 10:19 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:17 pm to
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Then you're an enormous douchebag


yeah those pesky facts and intelligent football analysis are so douchy
Posted by genro
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:19 pm to
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yeah those pesky facts and intelligent football analysis are so douchy
The question was do I think nothing has changed since August 31st.

How can you possibly think that is a serious question and not smartass.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:19 pm to
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Reverse the scenario though.. doesn't LSU have the same advantage against the Bama offense?



Depends on whether or not the Jekyll or Hyde offensive line shows up for Alabama. Man for man they can match up with any offensive line in the talent department. When they're good, they are really really good. When they're bad, they're really bad. This can vary from play-to-play. I think that matchup is going to be give and take
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:20 pm to
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230 Ezekiel Elliott (OSU) Jan. 1, 2015 L 42-35
195 Darren McFadden (Ark.) Sept. 15, 2007 W 41-38


Dayum.
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:20 pm to
We're all douchebags man, it's okay
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:20 pm to
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Long Rushing Plays


What's the number here..yardage wise
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:21 pm to
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Depends on whether or not the Jekyll or Hyde offensive line shows up for Alabama. Man for man they can match up with any offensive line in the talent department. When they're good, they are really really good. When they're bad, they're really bad. This can vary from play-to-play. I think that matchup is going to be give and take



Alabama is giving up ~8 TFL per game #115 in the country. Lots of negative plays for you guys. Seems that you guys are better at pass blocking than run blocking for sure. #39 in sacks allowed.
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:21 pm to
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What's the number here..yardage wise



10+ yards. Alabama has given up less rushes greater than 10 yards but less than 20 than LSU. LSU has given up less 20+ yard rushes but less 10-20 yard rushes.

LSUs biggest weakness, and it's quite obvious, is the long passing game. #123 in the country in long passes allowed. We've allowed 7 passes of 50-60 yards this season. Most of them were bombs and busted coverage. We're also the worst team in the country at allowing long punt returns.. which realistically could lose the game for LSU this saturday.
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 10:28 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:21 pm to
Wait! Are we talking about the same bama line that rushed for 103 yards against western kentucky,125 yard against Ole miss,and 122 yards against texas a&m?

That bama oline may have had nfl talent on it but it didn't run over everyone like this lsu offense line is doing.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:22 pm to
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The question was do I think nothing has changed since August 31st.

How can you possibly think that is a serious question and not smartass.


You cited only the full season statistics, which, on top of being an incomplete picture of a quarterback's ability, also values the first game as much as the most recent.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:24 pm to
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You cited only the full season statistics, which, on top of being an incomplete picture of a quarterback's ability, also values the first game as much as the most recent.


Do you have a better method?

Eta: are you saying teams always improve consistently?
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 10:25 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:25 pm to
Yeah, actually watching the games and not relying only on numbers.
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