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re: Bama fans, when Saban wins another title , will you rank him over Bear?
Posted on 10/7/13 at 7:45 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 10/7/13 at 7:45 am to Rickdaddy4188
Bear had a huge recruiting advantage over Saban
Just sayin
Just sayin
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 7:54 am to NeverRains
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Bama fans dont like that question
I don't like it because the stereotype that Bama fans compare all Bama coaches to Coach Bryant is just false. That might have been true in the 80s but Bama fans compare our coaches to their peers. Media are the ones who constantly bring up Coach Bryant
Posted on 10/7/13 at 7:55 am to S.E.C. Crazy
I totally agree, and witnessed it myself. The same ole Stereotype still going on even today. South all " Rednecks" and The Rust Belt was in the media mindset; where it was "happening". That is why we love beating the crap out of those Notre Dame and Big Ten Homers. The SEC is now more respected then 30+ years ago....'bout time! 
Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:06 am to S.E.C. Crazy
Pre-BCS, split title were far more common. It just wasn't any tougher to win a title back then as it is today.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:15 am to pvilleguru
Tell that to 66 Bama , 77 Bama and to 1974 Bama who was 11-1 vs. USC 10-1-1 ...... I know Oklahoma won the AP with a 12-0 record but they weren't eligible for the coaches poll.
Bear Bryant went 10-1 at Kentucky and beat # 1 Oklahoma in the bowl game in 1950, I don't think anybody else but Bryant could do that.
Bear Bryant went 10-1 at Kentucky and beat # 1 Oklahoma in the bowl game in 1950, I don't think anybody else but Bryant could do that.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:19 am to S.E.C. Crazy
You can say the same about Auburn in 2004.
shite just happens some years and we have a terrible system of determining a champion. There's about 80 teams too many in the FBS. Maybe more.
shite just happens some years and we have a terrible system of determining a champion. There's about 80 teams too many in the FBS. Maybe more.
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 8:21 am
Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:47 am to S.E.C. Crazy
Nick Saban won a National Title at LSU.... solid
Bear Bryant won a National Title at Kentucky... in FOOTBALL. We have a winner!
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Bear Bryant went 10-1 at Kentucky and beat # 1 Oklahoma in the bowl game in 1950,
Bear Bryant won a National Title at Kentucky... in FOOTBALL. We have a winner!
Posted on 10/7/13 at 8:50 am to TideTurf
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Bryant his era
Saban his era
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:02 am to Rickdaddy4188
It's a generational thing. We old folks that were around before, during and after Coach Bryant have a much greater reverence for what "Coach" accomplished. The younger crowd..not so much.
The great thing is that along with coaches Wade and Thomas, Alabama fans have the best selection to choose from of any place in America.
The great thing is that along with coaches Wade and Thomas, Alabama fans have the best selection to choose from of any place in America.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:06 am to labamafan
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I don't like the must win six national title argument. The two eras are not even remotely the same. I think what Saban is doing is much more difficult as there are several teams in the west division alone in the top ten: then if you manage the regular season you usually face a top ten east team and then face either the first or second best team in the nation for the title. Bear didn't have to overcome those odds. Sorry Saban is already more impressive to me and it's not really close.
You definitely have a point. But the discussion doesn't end there.
In the BCS era, for an SEC team, you KNOW you are playing two elite games, and possibly more. Right now, Alabama's schedule is being mocked by LSU and we play FOUR elite games if we want to win it all. This was simply not the case in Coach Bryant's era. When you add in the fact that there is SO much more parity now, both in mid-level SEC teams and even in teams considered "easy", it's not close. Can you IMAGINE Coach Bryant watching Ole Miss pull in a class like this in his day? In national titles, I go with Saban. But you can't discount Coach Bryant's remarkable number of SEC titles.
Bottom line - no way to say definitively at this point. Coach Bryant would have to accomplish a similar feat in an age that guaranteed solid scheduling. Coach Saban would have to coach a lot longer to even have a chance at doing something comparable with the conference titles. Neither is clearly better than the other at this point.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:13 am to Crimson Legend
Tougher to win titles now with so many more competitive teams and recruiting restrictions. Bear could sign as many as he wanted. What Saban is doing is more impressive to me.
Saban > Bear
Saban > Bear
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:18 am to Rickdaddy4188
Bear would drink Saban under the table...
Oh, you meant better at coaching football. My bad.
Oh, you meant better at coaching football. My bad.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:20 am to madmaxvol
But he couldn't touch Majors! 
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:22 am to coachcrisp
Must be tough to be a Tennessee fan. Your one title in the modern era was under a fat backstabber who screwed Johnny Majors out of the head coaching job.
At least you can love Peyton.
At least you can love Peyton.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:31 am to Crimson Legend
"Must be tough to be a Tennessee fan. Your one title in the modern era was under a fat backstabber who screwed Johnny Majors out of the head coaching job."
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....while he was drying out in the hospital.
PS- I still have the memory of Peyton leading the Tenn. crowd in B'ham singing "Rocky Top" after a win. I don't love him.
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....while he was drying out in the hospital.
PS- I still have the memory of Peyton leading the Tenn. crowd in B'ham singing "Rocky Top" after a win. I don't love him.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:35 am to coachcrisp
quote:Look familiar???
PS- I still have the memory of Peyton leading the Tenn. crowd in B'ham singing "Rocky Top" after a win. I don't love him.
Manning Bootleg vs Dallas
Manning Bootleg vs Bama
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:39 am to Rickdaddy4188
Is Saban wins another and stays at Alabama until he retires . . . then he will be an equal in my eyes. The game is sooooo much different now - getting to the top of the mountain is alot more difficult now.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:40 am to Rickdaddy4188
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I think if y'all win again this year , it will definitely become a discussion.
It is a legit question, but not yet. Bear's ability to adapt over time keeps him #1 to me.
If Saban stays another 5 years and keeps performing at the level he is now (nattys or not), then he probably gets the nod.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:46 am to madmaxvol
Look familiar???
Manning Bootleg vs Dallas
Manning Bootleg vs Bama
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I'll bet you've been playing that clip back on the 3rd Saturday in Oct. for the last 6 years!
Manning Bootleg vs Dallas
Manning Bootleg vs Bama
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I'll bet you've been playing that clip back on the 3rd Saturday in Oct. for the last 6 years!
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 9:47 am
Posted on 10/7/13 at 9:50 am to coachcrisp
Nope. Saw Peyton's bootleg this weekend and thought, "where else have I seen a defense so faked out of their jocks like that".
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