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re: Bama and holding

Posted on 8/8/15 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95900 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 12:23 pm to
Still mad
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

So you can't say Saban's coaching is the reason for the minimal amount of penalties
Or you could say he's a better coach now than he was at LSU.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 12:37 pm to
Very cute,point is that it was the exact same crew in both games...no ryhme or reason to their "holding" policy.
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18107 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 12:45 pm to
It's more than just holding. It's bad calls in general and it didnt start with Saban. This is what happens when their alumni run the conference HQ in Birmingham.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41892 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 1:49 pm to
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Or you could say he's a better coach now than he was at LSU.


Except in Special Teams. I'll give you he's a better coach but Bama gets benefits others don't.

Just gotta beat em despite that, honestly.
Posted by ThaKaptin
The Sultan of Swag
Member since Nov 2010
21741 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 2:16 pm to
I'm going to assume there is a bunch of whining and crying in here
Posted by johnzorback
Member since Apr 2012
4123 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 2:17 pm to
Every team holds. But saying one team holds makes everyone pay more attention to it.

If another team was said to hold more than normal people would pay more attention to it and it would be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Posted by ThaKaptin
The Sultan of Swag
Member since Nov 2010
21741 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 2:18 pm to
I'll be damned, I was right

Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6022 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 2:32 pm to
I don't think it is just about one team winning more than another. UF has consistently led the league in penalties. From Spurrier to Muschamp, it doesn't matter who the coach is, we get a ton of penalties called against us.
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
5956 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 2:39 pm to
Refs certainly have biases. After the end zone party, UGA 15 yard penalties in the following few years were significantly increased. I remember someone actually did the math/statistics and proved it.

Really, the whole Bama/holding thing came about when they went through an entire season and then some with no holding call going against them, which I think we can all agree on here is complete BS.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 5:02 pm to
Go to Tiger rant if you want we have a fricking book on it. Bama averages almost 3 more holding calls when playing any game with non SEC refs, and is the least penalized team in the SEC even when Satan was at LSU and they had that disciplinarian Shula there. Even then LSU was 2-3x penalized as Bama, then there were whole years when they never got a holding penalty at home despite clear video evidence of OL tackling defenders at point of the attack.

With that said and it is clear, it has gotten better in last few years since National Media has caught on.
Posted by Ry_garou
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2014
581 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 5:40 pm to
Stats don't lie..

LINK /
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 7:01 pm to
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Stats don't lie..



So since Kentucky and MSU and the 2nd and 3rd least penalized, does that mean they control the SEC offices as well?
Posted by DamnStrong
NOLA Til I Die!
Member since Aug 2008
3984 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 7:07 pm to
Not sure about the origin, but I am sure that I've never seen "Bama" & "Holding" in the same sentence before.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19686 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

Stats don't lie..

LINK /


quote:

The SEC’s least penalized teams over the last five years


its shocking that the best coached team for the last 5 years was the least penalized team
This post was edited on 8/8/15 at 7:55 pm
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 8:51 pm to
2009 lsu Bama game Bama committed block in the back on Julio jones long run. It was not called a penalty.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 8:51 pm to
I'm not sure you can put "bama" and "holding" in the same sentence.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 8:55 pm to

sounds bogus, you know like the made up crap about the refs finding the "Bamp spot"...


Posted by bham_tiger
Member since Jun 2015
573 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 8:58 pm to
I want to say they had a streak of about 500 offensive snaps without a hold being called, at least that's the stat ESPN ran one game.
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