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re: Bama = LSU = Georgia

Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:28 pm to
Posted by tigerclaw10
My house
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:28 pm to
So loaded up with school, i thought you had double bonded LSU to Bama and Georgia..
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83462 posts
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:30 pm to


I won't get into an argument over who's QB is worse, but Coker scares me to death. I don't understand why I'm in the minority here. I honestly think he's horrible.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 6:01 am to
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No,


Yes. Miles had one of the best backs in the country last year and lost to Arkansas 17-0 while allowing said back to carry the ball 6 times. He continues to show questionable decision making. I used to think Miles was better than Richt based off a Natty, but I'm not so sure anymore. Richt has his own issues. They are both good coaches, but I honestly think Richt has caught Miles at this point. Only time tells is Miles retakes the lead, or Richt continues to advance.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 6:12 am to
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Can we consider Miles' 78% winning percentage while at LSU in the West vs Right's 74% winning percentage coaching UGA in the East since we have to dismiss the natty and SEC championships?





Sure. If we can consider Richt's record verses the West and Miles record verses Richt. See how that works? Nobody said that Richt was better. We are saying they are virtually the same except the Natty.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10160 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 6:43 am to
To this day, Richt hasn't made a NC appearance in a down SEC East, get the hell out.
Posted by Swm323
Pace,FL
Member since Mar 2013
1360 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 6:53 am to
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yes. success and failure in previous seasons is in part due to disparities in talent and injuries. when the playing field is more even, you can see who the better coach is.


Who do you think creates that talent disparity? It's not like the coaches just show up to work and the talent is just there. Recruiting is one of if not the most important aspects of a coaches job.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32860 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 6:57 am to
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Bama = LSU = Georgia
To this day, Richt hasn't made a NC appearance in a down SEC East, get the hell out.




Luck, or lack thereof.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16995 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 7:01 am to
I thought Harris played pretty well, he had some nice passes. I see why Les is timid but maybe they should turn him lose on a team and see what he does. A for sure win team of course but none the less.
Posted by BayouBengal6884
Lafourche Parish
Member since Dec 2013
618 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 7:35 am to
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success and failure in previous seasons is in part due to disparities in talent and injuries. when the playing field is more even, you can see who the better coach is


How can I put this ..... NO. You must not know what good coaching is. The better coaches know how to win despite injuries and lesser talent.
Posted by Tecate
Member since Nov 2012
1000 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 7:40 am to
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If the recruit that followed Chavis to A&M


????
Posted by 2much8ntenough
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2008
415 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:35 am to
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Luck, or lack thereof.


You got me there. Can't argue w luck, magic or voodoo.

That being said, I would consider a NC and better overall winning percentage as better.
Posted by Donkeypunch
Georgia
Member since Jun 2007
1421 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:15 am to
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yes. success and failure in previous seasons is in part due to disparities in talent and injuries. when the playing field is more even, you can see who the better coach is.


You could tell when the talent wasn't equal. 2008 UGA & LSU were vastly more talented than Bama. Saban wins a close one vs Miles and went in dry on UGA.

By your logic that should establish a pretty clear pecking order.
Posted by RussIX
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
144 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 12:08 pm to
Agree completely with the similarities you named

Still a significant talent gap overall though.
Based on 247's ratings from 2012-2015

# of recruits rated 5*/4*/3*

UA: 21/56/25
LSU: 6/57/34
UGA: 9/43/51

Of course this ignores transfers, players who have left for the NFL, etc.
Posted by TheGoodLife
Member since Sep 2015
60 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

quote:
Bama = LSU = Georgia
To this day, Richt hasn't made a NC appearance in a down SEC East, get the hell out.



Luck, or lack thereof.


More like Elite Coaching ability, or lack thereof.
Posted by TheGoodLife
Member since Sep 2015
60 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 12:56 pm to
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Agree completely with the similarities you named

Still a significant talent gap overall though.
Based on 247's ratings from 2012-2015

# of recruits rated 5*/4*/3*

UA: 21/56/25
LSU: 6/57/34
UGA: 9/43/51

Of course this ignores transfers, players who have left for the NFL, etc.


Get out with the excuses, Richt has put more players in the nfl than any other ncaa team except Miami over his tenure at UGA
Posted by KiffinsVisor
Tennessee
Member since Jun 2014
1129 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 12:57 pm to
BAMA
GEORGIA
LSU
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32860 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

Bama = LSU = Georgia
quote:
quote:
Bama = LSU = Georgia
To this day, Richt hasn't made a NC appearance in a down SEC East, get the hell out.



Luck, or lack thereof.


More like Elite Coaching ability, or lack thereof.




Huh?
Posted by RussIX
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
144 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:25 pm to
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Get out with the excuses

Not meant to be an "excuse", just one reason that Bama ? LSU ? UGA and an explanation for why Bama will probably continue to be favored over LSU and UGA (and everyone else) until the gap closes a little

Although maybe not, maybe I'm overestimating the gap. I think the pre-season line on Bama-UGA opened as a pick-em

quote:

Richt has put more players in the nfl than any other ncaa team except Miami over his tenure at UGA

Nice stat about Richt though. Would be a pretty compelling sell during a recruiting visit.

Too bad it doesn't hold true vs. Bama over the most recent few years
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