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re: Auburn May Add National Championships
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:25 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:25 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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I still do. I think y'all are retarded for doing it, and I think JJ is retarded for thinking about it.
This is the correct answer. Why anyone in the Athletic Department or fanbase thinks this is a good idea is beyond me.
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:25 am to RollTide1987
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In the Olympics
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:26 am to NYCAuburn
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In your link can you tell me where the NCAA recognizes NC's?
Right here:
http;//www.ncaa.com/history/football/fbs
Maybe you're confusing "Award" with "Recognize". No, the NCAA does NOT award a national championship for FBS level football. But they apparently recognize championships awarded by other organizations.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:27 am to Pettifogger
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LOL no. Multiple SEC schools would add championships immediately using even conservative Bama criteria.
What "conservative Bama criteria"? Every single national title claimed by Alabama during the poll era (except for 1941) was an AP or UPI national title. Only 1 of the 10 titles after the dubious 1941 claim was a UPI title (1973). So AP title claims are now considered crazy Alabama claims?
As for the pre-poll era claims, Alabama claims the 1925, 1926, 1930, and 1934 titles because they won the Rose Bowl that year and we're voted the national champion in at least 3 of the polls those years. You could certainly argue that those claims are legitimate as much as you could argue against them.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 9:29 am
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:29 am to RollTide1987
quote:Those Auburn claims are similar to a claim by a team that lost two conference games (was it MSU and Vandy?) and finished 20th in AP Poll (POLL ERA!11!!!)?
Along the same lines of Bama's '41 title claim. Yes.
quote:It makes the same point others were saying about Auburn whether it was Notre Dame or others, even though you and I both know it was about Notre Dame at that time.
And nothing in the above quoted says anything about Notre Dame.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 9:38 am
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:32 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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l. But they apparently recognize championships awarded by other organizations.
What I said exactly was, they recognize selectors that are more recognized. They dont officially say one poll is the correct one or not. They just say these polls are more recognized for the time
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:34 am to Govt Tide
I love this
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Every single national title claimed by Alabama during the poll era
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(except
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:34 am to AUCatfish
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Why anyone in the Athletic Department or fanbase thinks this is a good idea is beyond me.
Cause in 20 years, ppl will just see our titles as fact like they do at other schools and not care whether they are retroactive or not.
They will say Auburn has 9 titles or whatever the number is and be fine with it.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:35 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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I still do. I think y'all are retarded for doing it, and I think JJ is retarded for thinking about it.
Regardless of what you think about it, "Y'all" will be retarded for doing it also.
An entire fan base is reflected upon by what the program does as well as what individual fans do. That is what we have learned over the years.
When tv announcers say that auburn claims seven NCs, people will be like
just like they do when they hear that Bama claims fifteen. 
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:35 am to RollTide1987
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To a team who turned out to be cheating.
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In the Olympics that usually means the gold medal goes to the runner-up. Since Oklahoma actually played in the game, the position of runner-up belongs to them.
As an Alabama fan you should recognize the difference. in the Olympics, if they deem a player to have cheated, Do they forfeit or vacate the gold?
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:36 am to DaBama
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When tv announcers say that auburn claims seven NCs, people will be like just like they do when they hear that Bama claims fifteen.
At the end of the day, nobody really cares.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:36 am to DaBama
quote:I agree, except the longer you do it, the more people that are less informed just start to go along with it.
When tv announcers say that auburn claims seven NCs, people will be like just like they do when they hear that Bama claims fifteen.
If AU does it, it will be just as bad as when Bama or anyone else did it, but in 30 years, only die hard Bama and AU fans will argue about it.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:38 am to NYCAuburn
Why is that so funny? If you want to parse words then fine, take the word "single" out. The point still stands though. Which title claim from the poll era other than 1941 is a crazy claim based on the organizations that awarded the titles that Alabama claims?
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:39 am to DaBama
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As far as the OP is concerned it reeks of insecurity and little brother syndrome.
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Actually what it reeks of is hypocrisy. Auburn has always considered itself above the pettiness of claiming "false" championships. That was strictly a bammer thing.
Apparently not.
Do it Jay!
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:39 am to WG_Dawg
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The 1983 Auburn team got robbed that year
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It doesn't matter if they did or not..in the end they were not the champs. I could say UGA was jobbed in the 01 postseason due to the fact we were 8-3 after the reg season, arkansas was 7-4, and we beat arky head to head..while they got to go to the cotton bowl while we went to to the music city. Should UGA claim a cotton bowl anyway? Of course not.
I'm not sayin' they should or shouldn't claim it. As I posted, same thing happened to Bama in '77 and we don't claim that one...
The poster I was replying to was saying that year Auburn basically had no argument for #1 and I disagreed...and apparently other ranking systems that year did as well. While the UP & AP selected Miami as national champions in '83, there were "minor" polls that had Auburn as #1 (NY Times, Billingsley, and a couple of others I think). So there is some support to a claim, at least as far as 1983 goes any way...
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:41 am to WDE24
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If AU does it, it will be just as bad as when Bama or anyone else did it, but in 30 years, only die hard Bama and AU fans will argue about it.
TruePosted on 1/31/14 at 9:41 am to Govt Tide
quote:The point in this conversation is that you can't exclude 1941. The University claimed it and set the low threshold for claiming titles that Bama fans can't get around in arguing what other's claim as titles without being hypocritical.
Which title claim from the poll era other than 1941
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 9:42 am
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:43 am to Govt Tide
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Why is that so funny?
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The point still stands though.
not really
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:43 am to Pettifogger
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Multiple SEC schools would add championships immediately using even conservative Bama criteria.
So...1 dubious claim with every other year backed by Rose Bowl victories, AP titles, or UPI titles?
You're right. Every school could add 1 title using that method.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:44 am to imjustafatkid
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So...1 dubious claim with every other year backed by Rose Bowl victories, AP titles, or UPI titles?
well when you set your own criteria, how can you chastise others for doing the same
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