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re: Auburn May Add National Championships

Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:19 am to
Posted by PrivatePublic
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:19 am to
Go for it Aubs. I for one am tired of taking all the ridicule for shite long before I was born.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:19 am to
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1983 and 2004 have legitimate claims. None of the others do


1913 is probably the most legit of all, but really it's all stupid. If they were going to claim them they should have done it at the time. Retroclaiming is for losers.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:20 am to
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Notice how there are only 5 listed for Auburn. That means the selectors are so obscure that even the page that has all selectors doesn't even include them


yeah...i noticed that
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:21 am to
Posted by Master of Sinanju
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:21 am to
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And can someone clear up for me what exactly "claming" does? 


Fap material for fans. Nothing more than T shirt fodder.
Posted by stat19
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:22 am to
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warau


Now you know how some Bama fans feel about some of ours.

Welcome to the Politics of Dancing.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:22 am to
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the NCAA won't recognize it,


NCAA doesnt officially recognize any football NC. They essentially recognize certain polls as being more recognized
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:22 am to
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And can someone clear up for me what exactly "claming" does?

Let's say for instance auburn claims 2004. Ok, the school itself will put it in the media guide, on a flag, on shirts, etc. But nobody else in teh country will recognize it, the NCAA won't recognize it, and USC has the crystal ball. So what does it matter?

I guess the point I'm ultimatley getting at is...what's stopping teams from claiming as many as they want? Like if AU claims 2004, then UGA might as well claim 2013. It would essentially mean the same in the end.


It's a recruiting thing. Jacobs is desperate, so this is how he handles it.

You just have to consider how kids will view it. Most kids probably aren't going to worry if you claim a few from way back in the day, but are going to wonder about ones like in 1993 (weren't you on probation that year for cheating?) and 2004 (didn't you setup your own poll, and then turn off the poll when Auburn lost it to USC?)
Posted by StopRobot
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:23 am to
Anything prior to the poll era is pretty wide open. After the polls were established you need to win at least one of them to be legitimate. Auburn 1983 & 2004 would not be legitimate claims.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:23 am to
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Let's say for instance auburn claims 2004... and USC has the crystal ball


I thought they had to give it back? As a vacated MNC, Auburn might actually have a claim on that one.
Posted by JStanDawgFan
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:23 am to
Considering that the 04 title at USC is vacated; I cannot see any reason in the world that Auburn cannot claim it as theirs in some fashion. OU never belonged in the title game that year to begin with.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:23 am to
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And can someone clear up for me what exactly "claming" does?


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We compare ourselves to other schools


When you can't stand on your own merits....
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:24 am to
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NCAA doesnt officially recognize any football NC. They essentially recognize certain polls as being more recognized


Actually, yes they do:

LINK

The NCAA officially recognizes 13 of Alabama's titles. Tied with Notre Dame for the most non-Ivy League championships.

But seriously - AU fans have been spouting that for years and are wrong every time.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:24 am to
Be better than that, Auburn.
Posted by hg
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:25 am to


frick them
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:26 am to
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Actually, yes they do:


no they dont.

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But seriously - AU fans have been spouting that for years and are wrong every time.


you might want to read up a bit, your link even proves it. what I said is correct
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 8:27 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:27 am to
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I thought they had to give it back?


You get what I'm asking though...Auburn would be doing this even if USC didn't get in trouble. And Reggie Bush had to give back his heisman, does that mean they retroactively award it to someone else? No..there just isn't a recognized "winner" that year. Same with 2004, they won't just give the title to someone else, it will just be vacant. And if probation comes into play, then AU damn sure can't claim 93.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:27 am to
This would mean the state of Alabama has won 11 National Championships in the last five years.
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:28 am to
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Other than 1941


Tell me more about 1941, pls.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:28 am to
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if probation comes into play, then AU damn sure can't claim 93.


Hasn't stopped 1957.
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