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re: Auburn fans, what happened to the Gus Bus? [not a troll]
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:28 am to thirdlawson
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:28 am to thirdlawson
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Exactly...which means losses by 8, 8, 8 and 7 means they're not good. Just average. Can't finish. A byproduct of inexperience on offense
Maybe, maybe not.
Again, Mike Shula pretty much lost every single one of his games by 3-14 pts.
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:29 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Do you guy think White is the QB next year?
He's our best QB.
I'm concerned he's fragile and that Gus isn't interested in devoting an offense to him. I like the kid though, so I hope he does. We will need a solid B option though.
Part of me thinks Gus is going to try hard to go the JJ route again. Part of me thinks it'll be some 2 QB system with SW and the FSU transfer.
I don't know if it is possible, but given the options right now my preference would be SW as the full time starter, with SW learning to run the read option more, and JFIII running sets every now and then and in position to run mostly read option offense if SW goes down to injury.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:29 am to thirdlawson
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Hard to say at this point... He has thrown 1 TD this season. Holds the ball too long and has no escapability... We'll see what JF3 brings in the spring.
Unless the guy is Joe Montana I just don't think the Gus offense is nearly as scary without a run threat at QB. His ideal guy is a run threat who has a huge arm (see Marshall, Nick). Makes the defense defend every inch of the field.
Right now he doesn't have a QB who can do either.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:33 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Unless the guy is Joe Montana I just don't think the Gus offense is nearly as scary without a run threat at QB. His ideal guy is a run threat who has a huge arm (see Marshall, Nick). Makes the defense defend every inch of the field.
Right now he doesn't have a QB who can do either.
This is true, I just don't think it's necessary to compete for the SEC if other things are in place. Healthy SW is a mobile white boy. With good blocking and backs, an accurate passer who can run a little if needed, and more consistency at WR, we can put together an above-average offense that will work if get reasonably good play at D.
Of course, having a dominant offense is preferable as it can alleviate something going wrong on the other side of the ball for us.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:37 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Maybe, maybe not.
Again, Mike Shula pretty much lost every single one of his games by 3-14 pts.
Difference is that was Mike Shula's gameplan. It's not Gus Malzahn's....
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:39 am to thirdlawson
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Difference is that was Mike Shula's gameplan. It's not Gus Malzahn's....
I would have 100% agreed with you 3 months ago. However, I'm not really sure what Malzahn's gameplan is these days. Are you?
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:39 am to Pettifogger
I really think his system is predicated on having a running threat behind center that forces defenses to stay off balance.
If your qb isn't fast enough to beat the defense then running read options is really just a run play with a slow arse mesh point.
If your qb isn't fast enough to beat the defense then running read options is really just a run play with a slow arse mesh point.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:41 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Unless the guy is Joe Montana I just don't think the Gus offense is nearly as scary without a run threat at QB. His ideal guy is a run threat who has a huge arm (see Marshall, Nick). Makes the defense defend every inch of the field.
Right now he doesn't have a QB who can do either.
True...Gus wants to run up the middle, run the zone read, run the speed sweep and then beat you DEEP with the playaction.
JJ cant run. Sean can't run or push the ball deep.
That's why I think JF3 has a chance. He's fast and has a cannon.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:42 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I'm not really sure what Malzahn's gameplan is these days. Are you?
Hope opposing defenses will run a 2-9 scheme so his dive plays will work for a change.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:42 am to thirdlawson
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True...Gus wants to run up the middle, run the zone read, run the speed sweep and then beat you DEEP with the playaction. JJ cant run. Sean can't run or push the ball deep. That's why I think JF3 has a chance. He's fast and has a cannon.
Yep, that is why, despite his accuracy issues, Marshall was so terrifying. When he held the ball out to a back you had to seriously defend (a) him, (b) the back and (c) the deep 1/3 of the field. If you broke down in any of those areas and he made the right read it was going to be a touchdown. Not a first down, a touchdown. That is serious pressure on a defense.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:45 am to SummerOfGeorge
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It was a low key day. Alabama was supposed to dismantle Auburn. Their Heisman candidate had a national stage to take center spotlight. But something unexpected happened.
Our tailgate was a fun morning. We hosted many Bama friends who came by. The food was fabulour, the music was toe tapping, and the weather was perfect. We went to our traditional “Tiger Walk” and cheered the team and coaches into the stadium – like gladiators inot their arena knowing a hungry, undefeated opponent was on the other side pacing and suiting up for a David and Goliath moment. But something unexpected happened.
The sea of orange filled the sun-kissed stadium. Every seat was filled. Our Eagle, Tiger, flew around the tops of our heads and landed midfield. The teams entered to thunderous applause, fanfare and frenzied fans. Bama fans wore stickers that said “Fear the shutout.” But something unexpected happened.
Auburn, fueled by the fans and faith of spirit with hard work, threw everything they had at Alabama. And for 56 minutes Auburn prevailed. The score, the stats, the noise, the pride; for 56 minutes we owned it. But something unexpected happened.
Alabama put together a successful last minute drive and scored the go ahead points. The TV announcers loved the battle for ratings. No one in the stadium moved. But something unexpected happened.
The Alabama fans stayed and “sabaned” their victory. Their band played. Their victory ended a perfect scheduled season. But something unexpected happened.
What possibly could be wrong? The Bama fans had suffered, sweated, cursed, paced and prayed for 56 torturous minutes and their team finally pulled it out and won. But what they saw next was not suppose to happen … either.
The Auburn Family stayed. They were supposed to flee in defeat but alas the opposite happened. We stayed in our seats and waited for our team to walk off the field. 80,000 family members escorted them off with thunderous applause and chants of “It’s great to be an Auburn Tiger!” The recruits stayed and watched this family of ours lift up our team who served up a whole humble pie to #2 Bama.
It reminded me of the scene in “How the Grinch Stole Christmas” when the Who’s in Whoville gathered after their presents and decorations were missing but lifted their voices loudly anyway to lift up their gratitude and celebrations. For us it was about thankfulness, honor and family. For 56 minute we were fans, but as our team walked off the field for a few minutes we were all one family. It was a great feeling and we had not even won the game … on the scoreboard.
We walked out of the stadium chanting AU cheers down the ramps. Alabama fans quiet and shocked. Their Heisman candidate was disposed of. Their defense was embarrassed. Their haughtiness was silent.
I have not mentioned the crudeness and ugliness that I witnessed or was a part of from Alabama fans prior and during the game. Their reputation for being rude fans lived on – not pulling for their team and being good fans but being jerks to others – even to children. However, after the game they were silent. Eerily quiet. One would have thought they lost the game. The lack of cries of “Roll Tide” was noticeably absent.
But something happened. Auburn continued to make us proud, played their hearts out, made idiots of the sports announcers who proclaimed earlier this was a waste to play, and silenced the visiting fans.
Yes, something happened. Auburn won everything but the scoreboard. This was not supposed to happen! Alabama was not supposed to allow this!! It was just Auburn for goodness sakes, right? Wrong.
Not a perfect day but an AUsome day
A legendary post from 24/7. I'm not Philip Marshall himself could write such an ausome post.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:45 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I would have 100% agreed with you 3 months ago. However, I'm not really sure what Malzahn's gameplan is these days. Are you?
Gameplan is always the same. The players executing the gameplan have changed.
Just think...how different would this offense be if we had gotten DeShaun Watson to flip....
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:47 am to thirdlawson
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Gameplan is always the same. The players executing the gameplan have changed.
But that execution has been a problem for 7 games. I know he isn't a magician but at some point you have to start changing things don't you? The same 4 read plays based on the shotgun QB dive aren't going to get it done, and that should have been pretty apparent after Jacksonville State or at worst Mississippi State, yet he continues to base everything off of that same power play.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:47 am to alabamabuckeye
So 4 and 5 years following "its an ongoing investigation" Auburn struggles winning games.
I'm sure its a coincidence.
I'm sure its a coincidence.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:49 am to SummerOfGeorge
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SummerOfGeorge
If you hadn't forgotten the [quote] tag, that post would have been much more well-received.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:50 am to cyde
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:56 am to alabamabuckeye
If you watch games close enough the plays have been there and not executed properly or dropped., overthrown, under thrown passes. Sometimes just getting beat by a better opponent.
His signature stubbornness is also a factor. I am not ready to get rid of him myself. I'm in for the whole ride and remembering he is a green HC at this level. We shall see.
His signature stubbornness is also a factor. I am not ready to get rid of him myself. I'm in for the whole ride and remembering he is a green HC at this level. We shall see.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:07 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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If you watch games close enough the plays have been there and not executed properly or dropped., overthrown, under thrown passes. Sometimes just getting beat by a better opponent.
His signature stubbornness is also a factor. I am not ready to get rid of him myself. I'm in for the whole ride and remembering he is a green HC at this level. We shall see.
I agree. If we just let him work thru it, we'll be fine.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:09 am to alabamabuckeye
He actually has to call plays now not just let Marshall and Cam do whatever they want.
Gus looks beyond lost and way out of his league.
Gus looks beyond lost and way out of his league.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:15 am to thirdlawson
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One bad loss
Agreed. But also had a couple of "bad wins" against JSU (in OT), SJSU (one score game late in 4Q), and KY (KY had ball in AU territory late with chance to tie or win).
Close or not, you guys are 2-8 in the last 10 SEC games. That should never be the case at a program like AU. Never.
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Signs of a team with new starters at QB, RB, FB, C and WR
Seriously? Other than new starter at C, the same could be said for Bama. New QB, RB, FB, and Cooper gone. Losing close games is not simply the sign of new starters. It is the sign of lack of killer instinct. Gus has by himself cost you guys games this year against at LEAST Ole Miss, Arky, and MSU with his predictable play-calling. How in the world do you have the ball inside the 5 against Ole Miss on 1st and goal and NOT call run, run, run and, if needed, run in order to get the TD?
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I really expect to compete for a championship in '16.
Really? With who at QB?
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