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re: AU to form committee to discuss claiming more football national titles

Posted on 5/29/14 at 6:59 pm to
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 6:59 pm to
ATPB guy got hooked by one of his own. That's funny
Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:47 pm to
The losing in your bowl game argument against Alabama works well for the 1973 UPI title claim as there was already a precedent set with the AP poll in the mid 60s to wait until after the bowls to crown a championship. The argument isn't as effective against the 1964 title claim because the rule hadn't been changed yet. It would be like arguing that FSU's 2013 national title isn't really a title because they didn't win a 4 team playoff to win it. Come to think of it, that will probably be the next way Auburn fans try to convince themselves that Alabama doesn't deserve the 2009, 2011, and 2012 national titles.

Alabama should drop the 1941 claim and replace it with 1945 and 1977. Alabama dominated it's 1945 schedule going undefeated and blowing out USC 34-14 in the Rose Bowl. Alabama's 1977 season was almost identical to Auburn's 1983 season.
Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:50 pm to
I think it may be time for a Committee on Hypocrisy.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:51 pm to
I would say claim 66. Only undefeated, untied team in the nation.
Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:56 pm to
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I would say claim 66. Only undefeated, untied team in the nation.


We can't claim a title that wasn't awarded. That's the basis for the whole system. Regardless of what looks right or what should have happened, in college football you are awarded national championships by polls. If no highly reputable poll voted Alabama #1 in 1966, then we didn't win it. This is the point that most auburn fans seem to struggle to grasp.
Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:38 pm to
Exactly. Auburn fans and other haters mocked and tore apart actual AP titles awarded to Alabama that no other school in America catches grief for. Yet they are now seriously considering claiming titles not awarded by either AP or UPI. The hypocrisy is truly staggering.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 8:40 pm
Posted by undecided
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:39 pm to
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@jimdunaway: Tommy Tuberville wants to claim 2004 NatChamp for Auburn. He talks with @DanWolken USC vacated it. What do you think? LINK
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:53 pm to
It's not about "claiming" or "recognizing", it's about being awarded.
Posted by mbogo
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:54 pm to
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I think its because Alabama claims championships in years they lost their bowl games. ie, how can you claim to be the champs when you lose your bowl game?



The same way you can claim one when you didn't play in a bowl game. By your logic Bama have been more legit if they had been on probation so they didn't have to play in those bowl games.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:27 pm to
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We can't claim a title that wasn't awarded. That's the basis for the whole system. Regardless of what looks right or what should have happened, in college football you are awarded national championships by polls. If no highly reputable poll voted Alabama #1 in 1966, then we didn't win it. This is the point that most auburn fans seem to struggle to grasp.

That didn't stop y'all from claiming 1925, 26, and 30.
Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:10 pm to
Well the 1925, 1926, and 1930 title claims were undefeated Rose Bowl winners that all had at least 3 different polls from the day awarded them as national champions.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:34 pm to


We should form a committee to decide which of our other 14 titles the NCAA give us that we gonna count.

Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:35 pm to
We just had a team vote and we now claim 8
Posted by MrAUTigers
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:35 pm to
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We should form a committee to decide which of our other 14 titles the NCAA give us that we gonna count.


Posted by bamamonty
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 6:59 am to
I guess they can replicate their trophies from the one that they have and camouflage their way to the top. The skies the limit. Heroes in their own minds. Kind of sounds pyscological. Bless their hearts!

Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 7:53 am to
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I think it may be time for a Committee on Hypocrisy.
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Crimson Legend


So you are leading up this committee with Govt Tide?
Posted by coachcrisp
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:50 am to
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JJ takes one step forward, and two steps back.
Seriously! Can't y'all do something about getting rid of that idiot? The guy's an embarrassment to ALL the folks in Alabama, not just Auburn people. I liken him to Shorty Price as our long-time "red-headed stepchild", except we couldn't fire Shorty.
Posted by StopRobot
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:11 am to
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mizzoukills
You really are the worst poster on this site and it isn't even close.


Coming from you that is a compliment
Posted by StopRobot
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:17 am to
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Can you not read? Three of those years ARE recognized by the NCAA.


The NCAA has recognized AU as national champions twice. That's it
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 9:19 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:18 am to
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These are the recognized national champions by the NCAA.
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No, they are not



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ou are reading a list of "other organizations that selected a national champioon.


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No, they are not

This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 9:21 am
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