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Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:45 am to CountryVolFan
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:45 am to CountryVolFan
Piss off Longhorns...LSU has taken the responsibility of nurturing lil bro...
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:45 am to Spindicus Lofrus
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Spindicus Lofrus
Honestly dude, I understand your desire to feel accepted here. However, I feel obligated to tell you that no one outside of Austin, TX is going to watch the LHN unless the LHN is the only network broadcasting the game they want to see.
You, however, will tune in to the SECN on weekly basis.
Good luck with trying to keep up.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:45 am to Spindicus Lofrus
What the frick are you doing here?
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:49 am to sjmabry
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LSU has taken the responsibility of nurturing lil bro...
Honestly between the T-day accommodations, letting us have John Chavis, and letting us have Speedy the Tigers of Louisiana have done more for the Noble Men of Kyle than Texas did in 100 years.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:58 am to cardboardboxer
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Honestly between the T-day accommodations, letting us have John Chavis, and letting us have Speedy the Tigers of Louisiana have done more for the Noble Men of Kyle than Texas did in 100 years.
LSU, our benevolent provider (reluctantly)
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:00 am to Old Sarge
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Honestly between the T-day accommodations, letting us have John Chavis, and letting us have Speedy the Tigers of Louisiana have done more for the Noble Men of Kyle than Texas did in 100 years.
quote:You can have everything, except a win on the field.
LSU, our benevolent provider (reluctantly)
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:07 am to cardboardboxer
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We will certainly make a piece of the SEC Network revenue coming in from Longhorns because that deal is different. Maybe a small piece (aka divided by 15),
and that's why it's a better deal, they don't split 15 ways, or 11 or 10 or whatever number of teams are left in that conference. I don't blame you for being happy to be out of it even if you still pay for LHN as well as the SECN, that doesn't make it a bad deal for you either.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:18 am to Spindicus Lofrus
The Longhorn Network--Golden Handcuffs.
Has there ever been a more compelling example of institutionalize arrogance gone awry?
For nearly 120 years, the fricking longhorns had uninterupted, solitary control of all other football programs in the State of Texas with the most favoribly-unlevel playing field with priceless built-in advantages.
But it just wasn't enough. The fricking longhorns needed to make certain that all other Texas programs were permanently margenalized in the media and in recruiting.
Enter the gloroius longhorn network.
For the LHN to work as a permanent advantage, any program that is a threat must remain in the same conference under the great smelly burnt-orange thumb.
Turns out that only ONE program was the threat. Daddy A&M.
Did the fricking longhorns squeel when Nebraska left the big 12?
When Colorado left?
When OU threatened to leave?
No.
Only when the real threat, and purpose for the LHn decided to leave did the fricking longhorn tantrums start.
One of the main (if not the main) objectives in creating the LHN was to control A&M. The writing was on the wall. A&M's living alumi growth was once a dwarf to the fricking longhorns watching that singular built-in advantage gradually slip away bread the need fir another marginalizing mechanism. But it failed. It does not matter now. I hope the LHN never goes away because it does just the opposite if its intended purpose. Thank God out leaderdhip was smaert enough and ballzy enough to make the right moves.
Here's to 100 more years of the fricking longhorns maintaining their 5th place in LHn-laden, Big Twatever irrelevance.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:19 am to Jagd Tiger
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and that's why it's a better deal, they don't split 15 ways, or 11 or 10 or whatever number of teams are left in that conference. I don't blame you for being happy to be out of it even if you still pay for LHN as well as the SECN, that doesn't make it a bad deal for you either.
Thing is, we very likely aren't paying one red cent for LHN. It was a throw-in with all the other Disney/ESPN properties. At this point, ESPN knows it's a financial failure. They're giving it away essentially for free, just trying to recoup as much $$ as they can from advertising revenue.
OTOH, the SECN is actually charging for carriage. Over $1 in SEC-footprint states.
To be fair to ESPN, I doubt their main priority for the LHN was to make money directly. Their chief concern was keeping the B12 intact, and in that respect, they have achieved their goal.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:21 am to CountryVolFan
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Does the LHN carry a weekly show where Texas recruits decommit from the school?
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:22 am to Spindicus Lofrus
Let me know when TLN replays their last bowl game. I'd be interested in watching that.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:22 am to CountryVolFan
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Does the LHN carry a weekly show where Texas recruits decommit from the school?
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:31 am to Dr RC
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I have ever seen on TV though was switching over to watch a panel of sip players "analyze" the Arkie game as it happened and get to see them get drunk on TV and essentially agree "Damn, we suck
Who was the dude with the big beard? He was fo sho drunk and got so pissed he would go silent for several minutes at a time.
please tell me there is a link to that
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:34 am to Jagd Tiger
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and that's why it's a better deal, they don't split 15 ways, or 11 or 10 or whatever number of teams are left in that conference. I don't blame you for being happy to be out of it even if you still pay for LHN as well as the SECN, that doesn't make it a bad deal for you either.
Sigh. I knew you were going to say that. That is why I wrote a whole paragraph, which you cut out, before that explains they get 0% of my money because it all goes to ESPN.
I should have just posted in bold
1/15th of something is more than 0% of something
After the initial deal Texas had provisions in the contract they get more of the revenue if the network is a wild success, but we aren't anywhere near that point. Texas gets $15 million on average no matter if an Aggies pays or not, while every Texas fan who pays adds to the 1/15th check we get.
My point is the SEC got the better deal, I was trying to rub it in more subtly.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:35 am to Mirthomatic
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Thing is, we very likely aren't paying one red cent for LHN. It was a throw-in with all the other Disney/ESPN properties
the money ESPN is paying has to come from somewhere, even if it's skimmed off the profits they are making from the SECN. I'm not sure why ESPN would want to pay through the nose to keep the B12 intact as you say, when they aren't making money off either the LHN or the B12. From a business standpoint it would seem to make more sense to let both the B12/LHN go under and stop paying out on a loser like the bevonetwork.
quote:considering the SEC is stable and the Bev12 isn't, it's certainly a better deal for the teams in the SEC, but somebody is throwing good money after bad money at ESPN.
My point is the SEC got the better deal
I still wouldn't be surprised if somewhere at ESPN/Disney they aren't cooking the books heavily to make that stinker of a deal look better than it is. You have to wonder when the piper will be paid, some heads will need to roll.
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:38 am to Jagd Tiger
But boxer's point remains valid. ESPN gets the money. The fricking longhorns only get the set amount in the contract.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:43 am to Spindicus Lofrus
Until they figure out a way to beat LSU, I still don't even really consider them in the SEC.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:44 am to cardboardboxer
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Honestly between the T-day accommodations, letting us have John Chavis, and letting us have Speedy the Tigers of Louisiana have done more for the Noble Men of Kyle than Texas did in 100 years.
LSU didn't give us any of that shite. We TOOK it. Because we can.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:50 am to KaiserSoze99
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But boxer's point remains valid. ESPN gets the money
"the money" has to pay the 40 million or so it is claimed, to bevo each year. That's my point, are they actually netting anything or are they losing money on the LHN. What sense does it make for ESPN to pay to keep the bev12 intact as a conference, so that FOX can have a contract to carry them?
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:58 am to Jagd Tiger
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What sense does it make for ESPN to pay to keep the bev12 intact as a conference, so that FOX can have a contract to carry them?
Great question.The answer is three fold:
1. ESPN DOES have a piece of the Big 12- the most valuable piece. It controls the Big 12's Tier 1 contract. That means the few relevant games a year out of that conference on an ESPN platform.
2. ESPN didn't have a piece of the PAC at the time. The PAC was going to make their own network for Tier 2/3 and Fox owned Tier 1. They didn't want Texas to go to the PAC and get shut out of college football for half of the country. Since then they have gotten Fox to share the PAC that is on the market.
3. ESPN owns a lot of property across college football. OU and Texas to the PAC would have sent the market for college football rights to the moon, which would have been reflected in every future TV contract across the board. Just the fact that there are 5 power conferences instead of 4 means that they have more leverage to play the conferences against each other.
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