re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us

They're already gettin to him.

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@billyliucci: The sit-down was planned several days prior and, to the best of my knowledge, no further meetings scheduled at this time.

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What, did he think that a more 'ominous' sign would be if a suited gorilla from the NCAA just sort of materialized at the foot of Johnny's fricking bed at, like, four in the morning and started grilling him?

Generally, when someone wants to talk to me, they ask me when a good time would be for us to meet.

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What, did he think that a more 'ominous' sign would be if a suited gorilla from the NCAA just sort of materialized at the foot of Johnny's fricking bed at, like, four in the morning and started grilling him?

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He can confirm it guys

Billy Liucci ?@billyliucci 13m
Can confirm @TravHaneyESPN's report and that Johnny Manziel and attorneys had extended meeting w/NCAA on Sunday.

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It's motherfricking official. You heard it from Diucci (or, as he's more colloquially know, 'doosh') first.

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Oh my shite

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From TexAgs? Link?

I'm ready to see Liucci go full-blown retard on the Internet.

frick, the post was deleted before I could link the thread. Was premium board anyway.

Liucci's response to the events of tonight:

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Guys, Johnny did indeed meet with the NCAA yesterday (Sunday) for five-and-a-half hours. It's what I've been talking about since last week and why I said earlier today that oa1 and I were getting a lot of the same information on certain aspects of this thing.

Frankly, I was planning to sit on the information until tomorrow following the presser because I wasn't thrilled about being the one to turn the press conference prior to the Rice game into a free-for-all.

Found out about the meeting happening last week and was able to get one confirmation on Sunday night. The second - which is what I always try to get - came today after the Tap show. I was going to go with it tonight until the "no questions about Johnny" press release came out. At that point, I felt confident that the story could wait until after the presser. Obviously, someone from within A&M felt differently, as Travis Haney got the story and ran with it, which is exactly what I would have done had I been in his position.

As I began saying last week, the meeting had been set for a while. It's also why I kept trying to say that nothing and I mean NOTHING - from the investigation's direction to the possibility of Manziel playing or sitting was set in stone. That's still the case.

Go back and read everything I've written this week. As opposed to others, I've preached caution throughout this. The meeting was never to 'rubber stamp' anything, it was something that had to be done at some point prior to the season.

The good news? I've heard that the NCAA STILL doesn't have the smoking gun needed (or anything of true substance in the way of a cooperative witness or hard evidence) to punish Manziel for accepting money for autographs. That said, I do believe that the NCAA wants SOMETHING to show for their efforts and to send a message that even agreeing to sign those items for free happened with the knowledge that someone would profit off of them.

The NCAA will probably let A&M know what their "recommendation" is sometime before the Rice game. Then, it's up to A&M to follow that path, turn a blind eye to it or, if there is a specific punishment handed out, appeal it. The possibility also exists that the recommendation is that they are free and clear and that they can play Manziel moving forward. Each of those are in play as we close in on four days until kickoff.

That's where we are at right now. This thing could go either way, though I lean towards Manziel getting the nod on Saturday versus Rice. A lot of back-and-forth between A&M, the NCAA and the Aggie coaches between now and then, however.

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so saying it never happened is sitting on it? back tracking like a motherfricker

That is one self-important motherfricker right there. I'm pretty astonished.

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You ain't seen the half of it, I'm afraid.

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Just wait. Johnny will get cleared, and that itself won't be enough for him. He'll start claiming that he himself orchestrated the whole news story and resultant investigation as part of his "master plan" to