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re: As Notre Dame becomes increasingly irrelevant, is Bama becoming America's team?

Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by BamainbigD
Allen, TX
Member since Jan 2010
634 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:25 pm to
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You have zero understanding on what it takes to be America's team.


A truly inspired, complete response. Your compelling argument has forced me to rethink my entire life view.


Sonnuvabitch, you cruel bastard!
Posted by HerbEaverstinks
Member since Jan 2011
4484 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:36 pm to
I think Alabama is possibly the most hated team in the country - most of the time.

That's what would be so ironic about Alabama vs. Florida State, if that happens.

I'm calling it "The Hate Bowl" because everyone (outside of Alabama fans) hates Alabama (a lot of it is envy) and obviously everyone hates FSU.

But this one and probably only time on a national scale, people will pull for Alabama over FSU because they hate Winston and Dumbo even more.

So America's team. No. Usually most hated team. Yes.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35474 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:40 pm to
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Religion is on the decline. Mormons and Catholics are struggling to find priests and now you're seeing younger and younger ones.

Mormons don't have priests. They use members from the congregation, so no, they're not struggling.
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65018 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:41 pm to
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You used to could find


This isnt even a typo. This is how people here literally speak

frick, I need to move
Posted by Rantavious
Bossier ''get down'' City
Member since Jan 2007
2079 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:44 pm to


AJ loves this thread
Posted by DaBama
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2011
1629 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:49 pm to
America's team is whoever is up next to try to knock off Bama.

Being respected > Being loved
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9590 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:54 pm to
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Notre Dame has been "America's Team" largely due to their huge Catholic following. People who otherwise wouldn't follow college football are "Notre Dame fans" because they're a catholic school.

Don't forget the Irish aspect as well. I know of one person that doesn't much care about college football but roots for ND, due to being Irish. Sure he's not alone.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24364 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:58 pm to
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A truly inspired, complete response. Your compelling argument has forced me to rethink my entire life view.


Sonnuvabitch, you cruel bastard!


Nothing more needed to be said. You're lack of understanding is enough.
Posted by ButchItUp
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2014
681 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:59 pm to
OH MY GOSH PAWLLLLLLL ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?!? ALABAMA IS ABOVE ALL ELSE THEY RULE THE WORLD
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:00 pm to
You are right about one thing: Bama is quite the bandwagon.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30858 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:11 pm to
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There is no America's Team anymore, and that goes for CFB and NFL.


This is the truest statement on here. Regional rivalries preclude anything from developing into this, plus "safe" sports, like Baseball, have been so scandal-plagued in recent years that most people like all big-time sports askew.

The US team in the World Cup is probably the closest, but until we field a team that can really get close to winning it I doubt soccer will ever be THAT big.

I will say this, though:
While not always true, I've always felt that college teams were the ones you grew up cheering for; pro teams are the ones you cheer for based on where you currently are (though, of course, exceptions exist). You move to Green Bay, you'll become a Packers fan. I doubt you'll stop being a (we'll say Georgia) fan in place of becoming a Wisconsin fan though.
Posted by Bama54
Neverland
Member since Nov 2011
5021 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:11 pm to
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I am not saying this to be a dick, but I have not seen many Bama founds outside of the SE in my life. I've lived in Houston, Columbus, NYC and now Miami and they have not had a large following in any of those places.


you must not get out very much. You can't get in The Ainsley in NYC on game day and there are also at least 2 other places Bama fans gather and all of the places you mentioned have Bama gathering places.

I have seen Alabama shirts all over Europe, in Morocco, Israel (there is a Bama store in Jersusalem) and in Egypt. Since we don't lose our championship games those are loser shirts sent out to the 3rd world. Can't remember EVER seeing Suckeye gear.
Posted by BigD Ag
Dallas
Member since Dec 2011
1635 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:34 pm to
They'll play the role of hated team. But not close to America's team.

Nobody minds associating with a very well-respected academic institution, etc. Also, as has been mentioned, there is the Catholic angle.

Nobody outside the state and some parts of SE wants to be associated with Bama. Yes, you can claim winning team etc. But too much association with derp derp slack jaw as well. So not a good sub for ND.
Posted by TigerFan244
Member since Jan 2012
2591 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:37 pm to
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You used to could find Irish fans all over the country and they were basically the face of college footbal even through the 90's with films like Rudie being huge successes. Now that Notre Dame is really in the lower depths of relevancy, I think Bama is taking their spot.

All the pieces are there. We have a couple movies under out belt(Forest Gump and Nick Saban in Blind Side) Also we are mentioned in a Steely Dan song and Big Krit. Couple that with all the winning as of late and our classic and recognizable brand, we are truly becoming the face of CFB. Thoughts?


DO you know why Bama is NOT America's team? A guy who calls himself "Larry the Golfer" (who says things like "You used to could" and can't remember that Nick Saban in the Blind Side was the LSU coach) thinks that it is.

Have you even been outside of the State of Alabama? I know in your little Gump bubble you think everyone eats, sleeps, dreams Bama football but sorry to burst your bubble - they don't.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22087 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:39 pm to
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I am not saying this to be a dick, but I have not seen many Bama founds outside of the SE in my life. I've lived in Houston, Columbus, NYC and now Miami and they have not had a large following in any of those places.

Obviously those are not all huge CFB places, but I know of multiple ND bars in all those locations


I have lived in St. Louis, Atlanta, and New York . . . I don't know what rock you lived under but I saw them everywhere.

Edit: Had to add on seeing fans in London.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 1:40 pm
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3015 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:42 pm to
In these playoffs, I think Oregon will be America's team. They certainly will be against Florida State. If they play Bama in Arlington, I'm sure most of the fans outside of the SEC will pull for Oregon.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12865 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:46 pm to
frick it, sounds official enough to me. Add #16 to the mantle and ALL bama fans are now required to say: "Roll Tide! America's team baby!"

Do it, start now!
Posted by Number1Gump
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
1368 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:51 pm to
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You used to could find Irish fans all over the country and they were basically the face of college footbal even through the 90's with films like Rudie being huge successes. Now that Notre Dame is really in the lower depths of relevancy, I think Bama is taking their spot. 

All the pieces are there. We have a couple movies under out belt(Forest Gump and Nick Saban in Blind Side) Also we are mentioned in a Steely Dan song and Big Krit. Couple that with all the winning as of late and our classic and recognizable brand, we are truly becoming the face of CFB. Thoughts?



Hey man, you forgot Crimson Tide with Denzel Washington and Gene Hackman.
Posted by Daigeaux
Mountains of East Tennessee
Member since Jul 2005
5961 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:54 pm to
Updyke, the tea bagger, the crazy bitch at the Oklahoma game, you crazy bastards shooting each other... Social media begs to differ. Your fanbase isn't looked at in any way positive, anywhere...and whether you like it or not, it reflects on your university. You're dumb if you think otherwise...
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 1:55 pm
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:19 pm to
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Bama is just the newest bandwagon. It was USC in the early to mid 2000s.


Spot on. The real Bama fans were there for Shula, lots of the current ones will leave with Saban.

I would imagine most Alabama fans will not miss them tbh.
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