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re: Arkansas' or Arkansas's.....which one is grammatically correct?
Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:27 pm to Bama Bird
Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:27 pm to Bama Bird
So, it's a plural of saw, which is incorrect.
Or, a plural of Kansas, as in Ar-KAN-zus-zus, which is incorrect.
Purdue is incorrect because their conclusions are based on a pronunciation that is incorrect. Jesus Christ, in 1881 an entire state of people agreed to mispronounce a word. Should we accept mispronunciation in our society?
Do we accept Ebonics as a true language? I hope not...
Or, a plural of Kansas, as in Ar-KAN-zus-zus, which is incorrect.
Purdue is incorrect because their conclusions are based on a pronunciation that is incorrect. Jesus Christ, in 1881 an entire state of people agreed to mispronounce a word. Should we accept mispronunciation in our society?
Do we accept Ebonics as a true language? I hope not...
This post was edited on 5/24/13 at 12:33 pm
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:27 pm to mizzoukills
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pronunciation is incorrect. Originally, the word Arkansas was pronounced Ar-KAN-sas
Sorry Killz, but that's complete horseshite. The pronunciation has always ended in a 'W' sound. Arkansas was a state long before Kansas.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:29 pm to mizzoukills
It's a plural of neither. That's why it's "'s" It's possessive.
If there were such a thing as multiple Arkansas, and they all possessed something, only then would Arkansas' be grammatically correct
If there were such a thing as multiple Arkansas, and they all possessed something, only then would Arkansas' be grammatically correct
Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:31 pm to mizzoukills
As someone with a name that ends in 's', I think I can shed some light on the dilemma... its Arkansas'
Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:32 pm to mizzoukills
Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:38 pm to I Ham That I Ham
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Arkansas Legislature says it's 's
Read my statement about the state of Arkansas formally embracing the mispronunciation of the word in 1881. The state should be pronounced Ar-KAN-sas, not Ar-kan-saw.
However, clearly American society cares little about correct grammar, so I'll play along and start using Arkansas's instead of Arkansas'.
This post was edited on 5/24/13 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:40 pm to mizzoukills
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Read my statement about the state of Arkansas formally agreeing to embrace the mispronunciation of the word in 1881. The state should be pronounced Ar-KAN-sas, not Ar-kan-saw.
Come from a guy who lives in Misery, I find this amusing.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:41 pm to DaleDenton
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Come from a guy who lives in Misery, I find this amusing.
Actually, I find your comment both grammatically atrocious and amusing because it makes no sense.
I love you, Dale! You never fail to make me laugh!
This post was edited on 5/24/13 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:47 pm to mizzoukills
Figured the big journalism school would already know haha
Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:50 pm to theGarnetWay
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I grew up learning that it was S'
Posted on 5/24/13 at 12:50 pm to Bama Bird
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Purdue University Online Writing Lab (or Purdue OWL) is one of the most respected and reputable grammar reference sites on the internet. It is cited by hundreds of other Universities around the country. According to Purdue OWL, you add " 's " to any singular possessive words, despite whether or not it ends in an "s". LINK
Whether it looks awkward, or whether or not a majority of people use Arkansas', is irrelevant. Arkansas's is the grammatically correct version of the possessive form of Arkansas.
Good enough for me
Killz - if you disagree, take it up with Purdue
Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:00 pm to mizzoukills
It would still be Arkansas's even if the "s" were to be pronounced. It's a singular word, regardless of how it's pronounced.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:00 pm to blacknblu
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Purdue University Online Writing Lab (or Purdue OWL) is one of the most respected and reputable grammar reference sites on the internet. It is cited by hundreds of other Universities around the country. According to Purdue OWL, you add " 's " to any singular possessive words, despite whether or not it ends in an "s". LINK
Whether it looks awkward, or whether or not a majority of people use Arkansas', is irrelevant. Arkansas's is the grammatically correct version of the possessive form of Arkansas.
Actually, the most surprising thing in this thread is that the majority of Arkansas posters use a very yankee university's conclusion to support their claim.
This post was edited on 5/24/13 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:05 pm to mizzoukills
Arkansas'
Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:06 pm to Hogwall Jackson
Hogwall Jackson
Finally!
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Arkansas'
Finally!
Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:11 pm to mizzoukills
People that use s's had a bad edumacation and should kill themselves.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:14 pm to cas4t
cas4t
I completely agree.
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People that use s's had a bad edumacation and should kill themselves.
I completely agree.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:16 pm to cas4t
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People that use s's had a bad edumacation
Quite the contrary, depending on the situation
Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:22 pm to mizzoukills
Arkansas.....name of Indian tribe that pronounced it's own name as Arkansaw. If you're too dumb to realize that, please do the world a favor and drink some raid. The spelling and pronunciation come directly from the tribe. As for the 's/s' question. They actually are both grammatically correct. Oxford school in England dictates that either are useful. I'd say they know their English.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 1:23 pm to mizzoukills
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Purdue is incorrect because their conclusions are based on a pronunciation that is incorrect. Jesus Christ, in 1881 an entire state of people agreed to mispronounce a word. Should we accept mispronunciation in our society?
Do we accept Ebonics as a true language? I hope not...
If I recall correctly, "Arkansas" comes from a Quapaw word meaning downstream people. And it was always pronounced Ar-kan-saw.
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