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re: Arkansas 2020 is Arkansas 2019 with a better turnover margin
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:12 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:12 am to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:Corral had thrown 1 INT all year before he threw 6 against us.
Mond has committed 4 turnovers the entire season.
Corral>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mond
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:16 am to Roger Klarvin
I almost never read through a thread that is already several pages. But Roger is giving an absolute clinic on this thread. The head in the sand Pigs really put it over the top.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:19 am to Farmer1906
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But Roger is giving an absolute clinic on this thread.
He also had a great call out thread for the Arkansas D before the Ole Miss game
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:21 am to Farmer1906
quote:Save the gay relations for the pep rally.
But Roger is giving an absolute clinic on this thread.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:24 am to Roger Klarvin
based on expectations when they were invited to the SEC Arkansas is the worst program in the conference
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:28 am to Farmer1906
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I almost never read through a thread that is already several pages. But Roger is giving an absolute clinic on this thread. The head in the sand Pigs really put it over the top.
"Arkansas has made fewer mistakes than their opponents, but if their opponents magically made no mistakes they would have won!"
Genius level analysis
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:36 am to Porcine Human
I haven't read all 7 pages, but he's saying that if we play worse, and other teams play better, we'd be losing more games?
Shocking if true.
Listen, our defense is playing really well right now. Our offense is struggling due to an entirely new system, new OC, new QB and no spring practice. Also we've been without a fully healthy RB in Rakeem Boyd and Treylon Burks(who was 80% Saturday but still had over 150 yards)
Offense will pick up and we won't have to rely on our defense as much.
at the end of the day, with the two worst teams in Arkansas football history, we've still had the ball with 2 minutes to go to win the game the last two years. A&M has been our closest game lately. Eventually it'll have to go our way.
btw, Mond sucks.
Shocking if true.
Listen, our defense is playing really well right now. Our offense is struggling due to an entirely new system, new OC, new QB and no spring practice. Also we've been without a fully healthy RB in Rakeem Boyd and Treylon Burks(who was 80% Saturday but still had over 150 yards)
Offense will pick up and we won't have to rely on our defense as much.
at the end of the day, with the two worst teams in Arkansas football history, we've still had the ball with 2 minutes to go to win the game the last two years. A&M has been our closest game lately. Eventually it'll have to go our way.
btw, Mond sucks.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 9:38 am
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:40 am to DuckTalesLOL
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I haven't read all 7 pages, but he's saying that if we play worse, and other teams play better, we'd be losing more games?
Basically, while also number vomiting
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:43 am to DuckTalesLOL
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I haven't read all 7 pages, but he's saying that if we play worse, and other teams play better, we'd be losing more games? Shocking if true.
That but then also recently it turned into if we kept winning some this season that we are just a reincarnation of Florida in their first year with Boom so basically either way we are DOOOOOOMED and should feel bad and sad and hopeless.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:44 am to Porcine Human
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"Arkansas has made fewer mistakes than their opponents, but if their opponents magically made no mistakes they would have won!"
Interesting fact, if Mississippi State had converted all of their third downs, Florida didn't fumble the ball, and Vanderbilt didn't miss some throws A&M would be 0-4.
Therefore I can conclude Arkansas will win by 28 points.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:47 am to Porcine Human
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Arkansas has made fewer mistakes than their opponents, but if their opponents magically made no mistakes they would have won!"
Genius level analysis
Such wild mischaracterization
I’m simply discussing the ramifications of Arkansas games reverting to some semblance of statistical normalcy. I’m not claiming “Oh had Ole Miss turned it over 0 times instead of 7 they would have won”.
The point here is Ole Miss could have still had a MISERABLE game (5ish turnovers, 2-3 failed 4th down conversions) and would still have almost certainly won.
At no point has the claim been about correcting for all opponent errors. The point is that Arkansas is winning games with wild and unsustainable turnover anomalies, and with the return to the mean that always occurs with this statistic over larger sample sizes their profound deficiencies elsewhere will be realized.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:49 am to Roger Klarvin
We are in close games because of our offense. IF, you like to use that a lot, our O gets it together all your words you typed willl be worth shite
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:52 am to Roger Klarvin
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The point here is Ole Miss could have still had a MISERABLE game (5ish turnovers, 2-3 failed 4th down conversions) and would still have almost certainly won.
My issue with this logic is that you're argument boils down to "if Ole Miss played better they would have won." Yes you can argue that that many turnovers is anomalous, but it's what happened.
Also Arkansas did not lean on turnovers to earn a victory on the field again Auburn. In fact, Arkansas missed 3 2 point conversion attempts and suffered a horrific blown call. So if we're normalizing for anomalies, Arkansas is still 2-2.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:59 am to DuckTalesLOL
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our defense is playing really well right now.
Again, apart from the turnovers teams move the ball with consistency against them. Their YPP is solid (5.1) which is 23rd in the nation, but this is a product of Odom’s defense. Teams are able to consistently move the ball in 5-10 yards increments and Arkansas struggles getting off the field without turnovers. This is reflected by the fact that they are still giving up 420 YPG, 23 first downs per game and consistently losing TOP despite that YPP average and despite 14 total opponent turnovers so far. Their overall defensive efficiency is 39th, which is SHOCKING given the 14 turnovers. You would expect a team forcing almost 4 turnovers per game to be in the top 3-5 in the country in defensive efficiency, but the fact is Arkansas really struggles stopping people without turnovers. And because turnovers tend to revert to he mean over time but other defensive metrics do not, it should be expected that Arkansas will have to deal with this fact going forward.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 10:01 am
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:03 am to Roger Klarvin
There's a lot less of this type of shite going on, so I have no reason not to think they're head and shoulders better than their past
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:04 am to XWing atAliciousness
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XWing atAliciousness
delete that please
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:10 am to XWing atAliciousness
Catalon says hi
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:12 am to Riggle
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My issue with this logic is that you're argument boils down to "if Ole Miss played better they would have won."
No, I’m arguing that if something that only happens in 0.5% of all college football games played (about 1/200 games) hadn’t occurred they would have won. And that stat is skewed because it’s all FBS games, which means it’s usually slack jaw State vs Bama when it occurs. In games between P5 opponents it’s about 1/300.
There are quite a few college football programs who haven’t been involved in a single game with 7 turnovers by one team in the last 30 years. Arkansas could realistically go the rest of your life without playing in another such game. A&M has been involved in (I think?) two such games in the last 30 years and one was a five hour overtime game.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 10:14 am
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:13 am to Roger Klarvin
In the words of Bill Belichick, "stats are for losers" 
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:13 am to BLG
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based on expectations when they were invited to the SEC Arkansas is the worst program in the conference
Please explain.
We're 4th in SECCG appearances in the West running through a historical 10-20 year run for Bama and LSU.
That's right where we should be all things considered.
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