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Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:25 am to BreakawayZou83
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Your damn Texas schools ruined my conference in the first place.
Don't lump us together with them. You know damn well who ruined it and we've been trying to tell everyone that for over a hundred years. ;)
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:25 am to Gradual_Stroke
Another saying comes to mind when I think of Tejas.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:25 am to relapse98
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You know damn well who ruined it and we've been trying to tell everyone that for over a hundred years. ;)
Yes I do, something we can agree on hating.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:25 am to Gradual_Stroke
Wow, Stroke-off, you really are stupid. You mean, Mizzou is an all talk school that has backed up our shite talk by owning A&M lately.
Okay. If that's what "all talk" means, then I agree!
Okay. If that's what "all talk" means, then I agree!
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:26 am to mizzoukills
Old Man football. 'Nuff said.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:27 am to Gradual_Stroke
Living vicariously through UGA... 
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:28 am to mizzoukills
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I think the SEC schools minus Mizzou are full of inbred racist hicks with a collective IQ of 50.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:28 am to BreakawayZou83
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Living vicariously through UGA
This guy is the douche that douches douches.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:28 am to TenTex
Nope. They are whiny bitches.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:29 am to nc14
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You do realize that those are not CFB markets? I live in Charlotte, find any mention of CFB in the only paper here - pathetic. Not a fan of adding more runt schools, soon we become Conference USA.
Agreed. We should have a partnership with the ACC and the Big 12. Keep them marginalized while growing our power. Expansion was right at the time. It isn't moving forward. AS humans, 16 seems more symmetrical, but it isn't the right move.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:29 am to BigAggie06
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ColoradoAg (if it is the same poster) is a dick everywhere. He pays to be on the premium boards on TexAgs and is universally despised over there.
I am not surprised. He frickin sucks
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:30 am to Gradual_Stroke
Stroke-off,
You need to learn "Old Man Ranting". Nuff said.
You need to learn "Old Man Ranting". Nuff said.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:30 am to TeLeFaWx
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AS humans
Right. Humans...
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:32 am to TenTex
1) First to Mizzou and A&M Fans, what are your thoughts with being in the SEC so far? Are there any differences you notice from SEC fans compared to Big 12 fans?
Couldn't be happier. A&M needed a change and the opportunity to go to the SEC with the cultural fit and the dominance of the conference was a dream come true. The SEC already is the best conference but in the next 5 years the gap is going to become like the Grand Canyon, you can already see it. SEC fans have been great for the most part.
Sure there is smack talk and a lot of "newbie hazing" but at least they are passionate and knowledgable. Most Big 12 fans really don't have much passion at all unless their school is winning. Even then they tend to be lacking in knowledge. Very few travel and almost all the venues suck.
2) How do the original SEC 12 schools feel about A&M and Mizzou and their fans? Do you have any personal stories to share from interacting with fans from either school?
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3) Has traveling to the 2 new schools been a pleasurable experience? If so, how? Have there been any special greetings?
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4) For Mizzou and A&M fans, how has travel been to SEC schools so far? Any special greetings?
For Aggies this will be better answered in 3 weeks. So far all we have is one trip to a rainy day in the Grove. Unfortunately I have some scheduling conflicts that are ruining my ability to make the road trips this year but have gotten plenty of feedback. Certainly the excitement about the trips compare only to when A&M would travel to Nebraska which honestly was the most SEC like team from a fan support perspective (though certainly they are pure Midwestern). OU was ok. Texas feels like going to a Cowboys game, it's all about the social event.
5) Was adding both schools good for the SEC fan base? We know its good for increased revenues.
Though I can't comment about SEC fan's perceptions the revenue is going to be SUBSTANTIAL. It's all about the coming SEC Network and being able to charge $1-2 per month per TV for every person in those states. With A&M and Mizzou that's over 30 million people and a ton of TV's. In 5 years the payout for SEC schools will be over $50 million per and honestly will be on track for $100 million in the coming years. It's going to be stupid money.
6) Should we add another 2 schools soon to get our expansion to 16?
Nothing will happen on expansion until or unless the ACC blows up. There are no quality schools available that the SEC would be interested in outside of that conference and realistically it will be a school from NC and Virginia with a small possibility of Maryland. FSU, Clemson, and GT are all great cultural fits but they don't add any TV's and thus they can't pull their weight financially. A school has to be worth $50 million plus per year to the conference to make the move and that really only happens by adding the NC and Virginia markets. Realistically within those it will be North Carolina and probably Virginia Tech though possibly UVA (remember Slive is a UVA grad and UVA is more powerful politically). NC State is unlikely to happen because NC controls the NC State Board and it is a part of their system. There is just no way NC allows NC State to make 2 or 3 times the revenue that they do in the SEC.
Honestly I think we are done with re-alignment for several years as things have stabilized with the ND move and the 2 conferences that would be plundered (ACC and Big 12) have ridiculous buyout provisions. Mainly though there is no incentive for anyone to move yet, the SEC and Big 1G don't need to do anything except count their money. The Pac 12 is in good shape and already controls the Western part of the US. There are no Big East schools or others that anyone wants, BYU is the "best of the rest" and they aren't really wanted by anyone nor do they really want to go anywhere. They only care about the pub for the Mormon church and that comes from playing an independent and national schedule.
Couldn't be happier. A&M needed a change and the opportunity to go to the SEC with the cultural fit and the dominance of the conference was a dream come true. The SEC already is the best conference but in the next 5 years the gap is going to become like the Grand Canyon, you can already see it. SEC fans have been great for the most part.
Sure there is smack talk and a lot of "newbie hazing" but at least they are passionate and knowledgable. Most Big 12 fans really don't have much passion at all unless their school is winning. Even then they tend to be lacking in knowledge. Very few travel and almost all the venues suck.
2) How do the original SEC 12 schools feel about A&M and Mizzou and their fans? Do you have any personal stories to share from interacting with fans from either school?
N/A
3) Has traveling to the 2 new schools been a pleasurable experience? If so, how? Have there been any special greetings?
N/A
4) For Mizzou and A&M fans, how has travel been to SEC schools so far? Any special greetings?
For Aggies this will be better answered in 3 weeks. So far all we have is one trip to a rainy day in the Grove. Unfortunately I have some scheduling conflicts that are ruining my ability to make the road trips this year but have gotten plenty of feedback. Certainly the excitement about the trips compare only to when A&M would travel to Nebraska which honestly was the most SEC like team from a fan support perspective (though certainly they are pure Midwestern). OU was ok. Texas feels like going to a Cowboys game, it's all about the social event.
5) Was adding both schools good for the SEC fan base? We know its good for increased revenues.
Though I can't comment about SEC fan's perceptions the revenue is going to be SUBSTANTIAL. It's all about the coming SEC Network and being able to charge $1-2 per month per TV for every person in those states. With A&M and Mizzou that's over 30 million people and a ton of TV's. In 5 years the payout for SEC schools will be over $50 million per and honestly will be on track for $100 million in the coming years. It's going to be stupid money.
6) Should we add another 2 schools soon to get our expansion to 16?
Nothing will happen on expansion until or unless the ACC blows up. There are no quality schools available that the SEC would be interested in outside of that conference and realistically it will be a school from NC and Virginia with a small possibility of Maryland. FSU, Clemson, and GT are all great cultural fits but they don't add any TV's and thus they can't pull their weight financially. A school has to be worth $50 million plus per year to the conference to make the move and that really only happens by adding the NC and Virginia markets. Realistically within those it will be North Carolina and probably Virginia Tech though possibly UVA (remember Slive is a UVA grad and UVA is more powerful politically). NC State is unlikely to happen because NC controls the NC State Board and it is a part of their system. There is just no way NC allows NC State to make 2 or 3 times the revenue that they do in the SEC.
Honestly I think we are done with re-alignment for several years as things have stabilized with the ND move and the 2 conferences that would be plundered (ACC and Big 12) have ridiculous buyout provisions. Mainly though there is no incentive for anyone to move yet, the SEC and Big 1G don't need to do anything except count their money. The Pac 12 is in good shape and already controls the Western part of the US. There are no Big East schools or others that anyone wants, BYU is the "best of the rest" and they aren't really wanted by anyone nor do they really want to go anywhere. They only care about the pub for the Mormon church and that comes from playing an independent and national schedule.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:32 am to BreakawayZou83
Mizzou fans just be pissed cause no one wants them.
Big XII didn't give a frick when they left (I don't remember any threats of litigation to keep you guys); B1G told them not 'no' but 'hell no'; and they ended up in the SEC only to find out that the only reason is because they didn't want to have to deal with a 13 team schedule.
Big XII didn't give a frick when they left (I don't remember any threats of litigation to keep you guys); B1G told them not 'no' but 'hell no'; and they ended up in the SEC only to find out that the only reason is because they didn't want to have to deal with a 13 team schedule.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:32 am to TenTex
my opinion hasn't changed since it happened. glad to have A&M aboard but still disappointed to see mizzou was the best we could do. and we don't need 16 teams, last thing we need is more people bitching about our rivalries.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:35 am to BreakawayZou83
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So much Mizzou hate, funniest coming from Aggies. Your damn Texas schools ruined my conference in the first place.
The old Big 8 was awesome, but it is not your conference. If you would rather be in the old Big 8, than the SEC, you cray cray.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:35 am to TeLeFaWx
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You do realize that those are not CFB markets? I live in Charlotte, find any mention of CFB in the only paper here - pathetic. Not a fan of adding more runt schools, soon we become Conference USA.
Agreed. We should have a partnership with the ACC and the Big 12. Keep them marginalized while growing our power. Expansion was right at the time. It isn't moving forward. AS humans, 16 seems more symmetrical, but it isn't the right move.
North Carolina isn't a big college football state but that doesn't really matter. What matters is if the SEC Network would get picked up by every provider in the state. Put North Carolina in the SEC and you not only get the NC football but you also get basketball and the other sports. Easy sell and thus easy money.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:51 am to aggressor
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North Carolina isn't a big college football state but that doesn't really matter. What matters is if the SEC Network would get picked up by every provider in the state. Put North Carolina in the SEC and you not only get the NC football but you also get basketball and the other sports. Easy sell and thus easy money.
Not forward thinking enough. Many things to consider. As we see with the LHN, forcing demand in a market that doesn't care about the product is tricky. tu is the most valuable college program in the country, and they can't get their network picked up in their own state. We don't know what the cable market price points are going to look like, and if cable markets shift dramatically to an a la carte model, what is the point. Secondly, what makes the UNC brand powerful is the rivalry with Duke. We wouldn't be able to monetize without them. Personally I think Duke/UNC is the perfect addition, but most don't want Duke. And what about the pro markets? Another factor to consider is the destabilization that would occur. FSU, Miami, Georgia Tech, Clemson would most certainly jump to the Big 12. Notre Dame might go with them at that point. Add in Virginia Tech to go to 16 for the SEC, and the Big 12 would probably grabs Duke to fortify it's basketball relevance, and you've created a powerful conference simply by marginally increasing the SEC's brand strength, if at all. The Big 12 then has Duke and Kansas in basketball. In football FSU, Miami, OU, tu, Notre Dame, Clemson, Georgia Tech combine for 34 National Championships. Why would the SEC want to destabilize what we have for marginally interested football fans? Point of diminishing returns. We've reached it. Let the dust settle. In 20 years, we can reconsider.
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