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re: Are you pleased with the SEC Expansion adding Mizzou & A&M?
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:00 am to Duckie
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:00 am to Duckie
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TAMU was a great addition. WOuld have rather had FSU over Mizzou though.
What market would FSU deliver that UF doesn't already have? Since that is what expansion is all about anyway...
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:01 am to Aggie Fishfinder
I think he was saying in terms of cultural fit, not TV markets.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:04 am to Billy Mays
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TAMU - poor man's Oklahoma. Like College Station, Norman is a SEC town and would've been a good fit.
Odd ... I have never heard this comparison ... A&M and OU really have nothing in common.
From inception, academics, athletics, culture ... all different. The towns may be similar but the reason OU was pretty much snubbed by everyone in realignment is that the entire state of Oklahoma has as many TV sets as Houston.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:05 am to TenTex
2. I didn't like it before it happened and I still feel that way. Their fans are just as shitty as any other lower or mid-tier school that thinks they're better than they are before they're served a big glass of shut the frick up. But that's not why I didn't like it. They bring nothing, and they dilute the conference further. If they're bad, they drag down the strength of schedule. If they're good, they just make it harder for ANY team to go undefeated and win a NC. It's a lose lose.
5. No, how do they help the SEC fanbase? More people doesn't always bean better. And until I see some proof, I'll remain doubtful that they've helped any school receive more revenue.
6. frick no.
Comments: frick them and slive for letting them in.
5. No, how do they help the SEC fanbase? More people doesn't always bean better. And until I see some proof, I'll remain doubtful that they've helped any school receive more revenue.
6. frick no.
Comments: frick them and slive for letting them in.
This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 9:06 am
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:05 am to Gradual_Stroke
Gradual_Stroke,
Let me guess...the move to the SEC unleashed A&M's football greatness. Within a year or two, A&M will become the annual SEC powerhouse. No one can compete with y'all.
You've sucked ballz for years, been Mizzou's bitch in College Station, and now you're the greatest thing since the invention of shamwow.
You're a funny little man.
Let me guess...the move to the SEC unleashed A&M's football greatness. Within a year or two, A&M will become the annual SEC powerhouse. No one can compete with y'all.
You've sucked ballz for years, been Mizzou's bitch in College Station, and now you're the greatest thing since the invention of shamwow.
You're a funny little man.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:10 am to nc14
Not pleased and it has nothing to do with the fans or the schools. I like tradition and A&M vs. Texas should not go away. I blame Texas for screwing up that conference and it's commissioner for screwing up the Nebraska vs. OU rivalary.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:11 am to mizzoukills
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And until I see some proof, I'll remain doubtful that they've helped any school receive more revenue.
Ummmmm, this is actually pretty simple. SEC Network. Take a look at the B1G network for comparison.
They charge ~$1 per TV set in states in which the B1G has a footprint and something like 5 cents in states where they do not.
Simply taking that in to account means adding A&M and Mizzou will increase per school revenues. Take those two out, go back to 12 teams and compare what each school would get and then add in the Texas and Missouri TV sets and do the math. 5 TVs in Bama won't bring in much revenue for the SEC network.
This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 9:12 am
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:12 am to TenTex
Yes.I'm very impressed with A&M's play and I think Mizzou will improve in the near future.The SEC money that's split up every summer will help Mizzou upgrade facilities.Halfway through year one of expansion I'm pleased.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:12 am to TenTex
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1) First to Mizzou and A&M Fans, what are your thoughts with being in the SEC so far? Are there any differences you notice from SEC fans compared to Big 12 fans?
The chasm between the big12 and the SEC in terms of quality is unbelievably huge. Everything is better, except maybe the officiating. It sucked in both conferences. Fans are much better in this conference. Not even comparable.
Its one thing to always hear about the grind of the SEC, and its another thing to go through it. We are fortunate to have talent on this team and a coach who can get us to compete this early. I know Mizzou fans are hurting right now, but Im sure they are still are happy with the move.
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5) Was adding both schools good for the SEC fan base? We know its good for increased revenues.
Monetarily, its going to be beyond good for all teams. Being objective, I can understand why many in the SEC are apprehensive. The SEC had a good thing going before we arrived, and I hope expansion only betters the conference. Either way, A&M is here to stay.
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6) Should we add another 2 schools soon to get our expansion to 16?
Im not sure how necessary that is in the short term. Long term it may be inevitable, it may not.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:15 am to BigD Ag
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Ummmmm, this is actually pretty simple. SEC Network. Take a look at the B1G network for comparison.
They charge ~$1 per TV set in states in which the B1G has a footprint and something like 5 cents in states where they do not.
Simply taking that in to account means adding A&M and Mizzou will increase per school revenues. Take those two out, go back to 12 teams and compare what each school would get and then add in the Texas and Missouri TV sets and do the math. 5 TVs in Bama won't bring in much revenue for the SEC network.
Show me the money. That's all hypothetical. Show me how much we were dividing between 12 schools, and how much we're now dividing between 14 schools. And take into account the negatives that those schools bring too, like more travel, and the fact that the percentage of great to not-so-great teams went down in the league, which will affect revenue in ticket sales, BCS berths, etc.
This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 9:19 am
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:16 am to TenTex
A&M was a good addition. Having Mizzou in the league is just dumb.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:17 am to Bob Ag
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Fans are much better in this conference. Not even comparable.
This is a huge thing.
Baylor sold 830 tickets for their trip to Kyle Field last year. Waco is 90 miles away and they have to return tickets? It seems like SEC fans support their schools just a tad bit more and travel like their lives depend on it.
[insert obligatory picture of Tarp of Shame].
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:17 am to Teague
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Show me the money. That's all hypothetical. Show me how much we were dividing between 12 schools, and how much we're now dividing between 14 schools.
Okay, when the SEC Network deal is disclosed I'll gladly do it. Again, it's pretty simple math. How is this a hypothetical? The SEC Network is happening, people have admitted as much.
This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 9:18 am
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:20 am to BigD Ag
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Okay, when the SEC Network deal is disclosed I'll gladly do it. Again, it's pretty simple math. How is this a hypothetical? The SEC Network is happening, people have admitted as much.
Get back to me with those figures WHEN it happens, and make sure you compare them to what each school was already making in the SEC.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:20 am to TenTex
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1) First to Mizzou and A&M Fans, what are your thoughts with being in the SEC so far? Are there any differences you notice from SEC fans compared to Big 12 fans?
Love it - the excitement of the 2013 schedule release is a proxy for this. Aggies I know were hovering over their computers waiting for it to come out, then furiously reserving hotels, and finally coming back together to discuss how things shook out. I never experienced that in the Big 12. Part of it is newness, of course, but really, it's just more exciting to plan trips to LSU, Bama, Ole Miss, Starkville, and Auburn (sorry Arky, just not enough home games, though a lot of people are trying to get in for this last one next year) than trips to Waco, Ames, Stillwater, etc.
The only thing I miss is the rivalry - it feels a little forced right now, even with LSU. It will come back as we interact more and more as opponents, but the level of hate just isn't there yet.
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4) For Mizzou and A&M fans, how has travel been to SEC schools so far? Any special greetings?
Haven't been to any away games yet (heading to Bama this year, LSU next year) but SEC fans have been very welcoming in Chicago whenever I came across them. There's a good SEC Chicago group that gets together - they threw a welcome party for us.
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6) Should we add another 2 schools soon to get our expansion to 16?
I'm hesitant to, just because it dilutes the rivalries. But, I'd add VT (they aren't politically tied to UVA) and NC State.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:21 am to Teague
Sure thing. You're pissing against the wind on this one but will do.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:22 am to BigD Ag
I think he literally wants a picture of the money. He is really confused/stupid/butthurt
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:22 am to BigD Ag
So much Mizzou hate, funniest coming from Aggies. Your damn Texas schools ruined my conference in the first place.
This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 9:23 am
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:23 am to BreakawayZou83
In Texas, we have a saying: All hat and no cattle. That is mizzoo in a nutshell. All talk.
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